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sugarsue Enthusiast

DD (age7) has molluscum which I've posted about before. She went on a gluten free trial even though her celiac panel came back negative. Her sister is highly gluten intolerant. Once she went gluten free, her molluscum started erupting and resolving itself. But I learned yesterday that the other skin issue she is having is eczema.

The dermatologist said that if it were for me, as an adult, he'd do the biopsy for DH. But since my dd is only 7, she's gluten free anyway and responding positively to it, he didn't recommend the skin biopsy. He gave us some steroid cream and said to come back in 2 weeks. She's already looking MUCH better after only 1 day of the cream.

So my questions....

If it's "just eczema", why would it show up after going gluten free?

If it is DH, does it matter? She's so much happier gluten free and is fully going along with the new diet. When she is older and adds gluten back, if its DH it would come back and then she could get the biopsy?

Thanks!

susan


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Hi Susan, this is just a thought but after my diagnoses, I ate more and more dairy (since it's mostly gluten free) and started getting eczema on my hands. I no longer do dairy except on Christmas eve, I ate my mom's famous cheese ball and woke up to nasty rash on the hairline of my scalp. Sadly, as long as I don't do dairy, I am fine. May not pertain to your daughter though if she is fine with dairy. Sounds like your making all the right decisions mom, and later as an adult, she could challenge it if she wishes.

Mtndog Collaborator

Ig I remember correctly, eczema is auto-immune as well. Hmm....mine was so bad before going gluten-free (ear canals that cracked and bled) and has resolved EXCEPT when I get glutened. Could she be getting glutened from any source- hair products, body wash, a food?

Glad she's getting some relief from the cream!

sugarsue Enthusiast

Thanks you two! My dd is allergic to dairy and I have been letting her have some so I have cut that out as of 2 days ago but she didn't eat too much since she noticed a difference if she ate it every day or large amounts. She used to take fish oil and we had stopped so I'm starting that back up again too. I think we cut that out around the time she went gluten free, probably a little before.

Regarding the possibility of her getting glutened, it's possible but since I'm so careful for my younger dd, I think she's pretty good. But, I have been letting her eat oatmeal and all the dang lotion I just bought is Aveeno! That can't be good can it? I have not checked into any of her other products, just food. So I will work on that too.

Mtndog Collaborator

Definitely not oatmeal- there's controversy over whether or not it has the gluten protein BUT most of it is contaminated. Ditto on the Aveeno (bummer- I used to like it!) and check her other products too.

Keep us posted :D

sugarsue Enthusiast

Oh the difference is amazing. The cream is clearing up the eczema quickly. Her molluscum is practically gone except for the skin needing to heal there are only a few more lesions that need to burst. I know going gluten free helped her clear this out. She's had it since June and not anywhere near clearing it until our gluten free trial!

Interesting about eczema being autoimmune related. I'll have to research that more. We've cut out the oatmeal and aveeno and added back the fish oil. She's looking super great!

Susan

ksymonds84 Enthusiast
Oh the difference is amazing. The cream is clearing up the eczema quickly. Her molluscum is practically gone except for the skin needing to heal there are only a few more lesions that need to burst. I know going gluten free helped her clear this out. She's had it since June and not anywhere near clearing it until our gluten free trial!

Interesting about eczema being autoimmune related. I'll have to research that more. We've cut out the oatmeal and aveeno and added back the fish oil. She's looking super great!

Susan

Wonderful news Susan! Thanks for the update!


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