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Any Experiences With Osteovalin?

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chasbari Apprentice
chasbari
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I just got my bone density numbers and have osteopenia. My metabolic panel was good otherwise. I am looking for supplements for D Calcium and Magnesium because I am sticking with strict paleo as I am not tolerating much of anything else at this point. I have dropped nearly 20 pounds in the last 6 weeks and have upped my protein intake in hopes of slowing that down but now figure I better start with the supplements. I read an article in Dr. Gott's ColumnOpen Original Shared Link

and have started to check this out as I anticipate my doctor wanting to put me on something prescription strength.

I have a tendency to fight using pharmaceutical solutions as they have caused me more problems with my RA in the past. I definitely want to stay away from drugs like Boniva because of the osteonecrosis issues and am wondering if anyone has had any experiences with this particular product. I made my first call to a company today and have requested information on gluten free and soy free status on this particular product. I hope to hear from them by Monday.

Any help would be appreciated as to suggestions.

Thanks,

Chuck

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Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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Why would you not choose to adjust your diet and just let your bones rebuild themselves?

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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There are things you can do that bypass the drugs, I would try those first. Weight bearing excercise on a daily basis and supplementing with vit D3, calcium and magnesium would be my first step. Also if you are newly diagnosed your system will start absorbing nutrients after you have healed which also should help.

Jestgar Rising Star
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There are things you can do that bypass the drugs, I would try those first. Weight bearing excercise on a daily basis and supplementing with vit D3, calcium and magnesium would be my first step. Also if you are newly diagnosed your system will start absorbing nutrients after you have healed which also should help.

much better answer. What she said! :P

chasbari Apprentice
chasbari
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Why would you not choose to adjust your diet and just let your bones rebuild themselves?

That is why I am looking at getting information on this supplement. I have already adjusted my diet by first going gluten-free and then going further by going strict Paleo to great success as to getting my RA to back down and my gut to settle. The thing with my safe foods list at this point, coupled with the osteopenia numbers on the bone scan and all my dental problems I have been dealing with throughout the long long course of finally getting to a diagnosis after all these years is that I am concerned about calcium and vitamin D sourcing as I am not having any dairy at all in my present diet. I have a basement full of prototype exercise equipment that is very much weight bearing but am finding that my tolerance for any musculoskelatal stress is quite low. I have to keep in mind that four months ago I could barely get out of a bed or a chair and that a flight of steps was enough to set me back half a day. I am able to walk and even run now which is quite miraculous. I am, however, concerned about lack of dietary intake for calcium because of Paleo and feel the need to safely supplement this while my gut is starting to heal. I know that it is a long process and I also know that the damage itself has compromised my absorption. I am absolutely against the idea of Fosemax or Boniva and have been working hard at dissuading my relatives from taking any.. My sister just started it for osteopenia and I want her to find an alternative. I was just wondering if anyone had an experience with OsteoValin in order to know if there were any issues with gluten or soy with this. The active ingredients are primarily minerals and flavinoids that help the body with calcium uptake but this is an over the counter non prescription supplement. I am just wanting to thoroughly vet this before I consider even putting it in my body. I have resisted all the evil drugs my rheumatologist wanted to put me on over the years to mask the symptoms of my RA because I knew at the gut level there was something more going on. the fact that it has responded so well to my celiac treatment, I believe, helps prove that point. Sorry about being long winded but I guess I was not properly asking for what I was asking for...any specific information or experiences with Osteovalin.

Thanks,

Chuck

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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I don't have experience with this but I am giving you a link to the PDR section on supplements which will let you know the side effects and cautions for the components of the drug. Do be aware it seems that all three major componets of this have Diarrhea as a side effect for some people and there is a drug interaction warning for at least 2 of them. .

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chasbari Apprentice
chasbari
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I don't have experience with this but I am giving you a link to the PDR section on supplements which will let you know the side effects and cautions for the components of the drug. Do be aware it seems that all three major componets of this have Diarrhea as a side effect for some people and there is a drug interaction warning for at least 2 of them. .

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Well, that is something I don't want to encourage anymore! I think I will just stick to some basic D3, calcium and magnesium supplementation for the time being and see if that doesn't help. Even though my iron numbers aren't of concern I have found that spinach the last few days has made things much better. I don't feel as strong as Popeye though..maybe it's because I don't have a corncob pipe.

Thanks for the link.

Chuck

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Well, that is something I don't want to encourage anymore! I think I will just stick to some basic D3, calcium and magnesium supplementation for the time being and see if that doesn't help. Even though my iron numbers aren't of concern I have found that spinach the last few days has made things much better. I don't feel as strong as Popeye though..maybe it's because I don't have a corncob pipe.

Thanks for the link.

Chuck

I think your making the right choice. Glad I was able to help. Also glad I found that link, which I have bookmarked as it may come in handy for the future.

Something you may also find helpful is to ask your doctor for a referral to a physical therapist. They can be really helpful in evaluating and forming an excercise prescription that can help you get back to where you want to be. I have found them to be really helpful for a lot of different issues.

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