Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Prolonged Intestinal Transit Time...


wschmucks

Recommended Posts

wschmucks Contributor

Hey Guys,

I was tested for Chrons the other day-- it came back negetive (which i guess is good). But it took me 4 hours for the liquid to get all the way through my intestines-- whcih is about 3-4 times longer than is typical. My biggest problem is chronic constipation--- so i guess it makes more sense now that my body cant get the food through and that its getting stuck in my intestines too long. Any ideas on how to work on that?? I read that some gut pathogens and overgrowth might slow that down. I have been taking laxatives on a daily basis for the past 6 months (after a year an a half of not taking them and being constipated EVERY DAY--so they are not what caused the C), i fear that may make it worse.

ANY WAYS-- I;m going to the Dr this afternoon, so if you'd recommend anything to bring up please let me know!! I do have Celiac-- should i ask for a steroid, perhaps any damage is delaying the transit time???

Thanks!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Roda Rising Star

If you really want to know about your bowel transit time you could ask about a bowel transit study x-ray. You have to swallow a capsule that has radiopaque markers in it and after so many days they take an x-ray of your abdomen and count how many of the markers are in the colon. The results are based on how many if any are left in the colon. You do have to be laxitive free while doing this test since the laxitaves can lead to false results.

wschmucks Contributor

Thanks for the reply.

The test i had done did basically the same thing for your intestines--which is where my transit time was delayed. I guess i just want to find out why it was delayed so i can fix it. Or if this indicates any other problems.

YoloGx Rookie

Have you tried using magnesium citrate to bowel tolerance, and then back off a little on the amount? I find it works like a champ. I take 1 teaspoon a day, in half teaspoon doses. I take the last dose at night not long before I go to bed.

Herbs that can help are yellow dock and oregon grape root, alternated (not taken at the same time). Use some licorice root with it too if you have low blood pressure. Do this on and off as needed. Ten days at once would be too much. These herbs help both with peristalsis as well as intestinal cleansing and are mildly laxative without being habit forming. Try to go off the straight laxatives, they really don't help in the long run. If you have to use something like that, however, try cascara sagrada. Add some ginger to prevent gripping.

Fresh ground up flax seed (1 tablespoon of the seed then ground in a clean coffee grinder) mixed in with water really helps. To make it even more effective add 1/4 tsp. apple pectin powder before the grind. This helps the pectin mix with the water without clumping. Take in a glass of water and then chase with another glass.

I also suggest eating a lot more vegetables plus regular exercise (like walking daily) is de rigeur.

Do make sure you drink plenty of water too..

My ex boyfriend used to get constipation horribly and was constantly taking laxative and going for colonics. Now however that he is entirely gluten free (i.e., even avoids all trace glutens) plus does the above remedies as needed, he no longer is constipated at all. He still has to be careful of what he eats, and often needs to take slippery elm or marshmallow root (you might too) to take down inflammation say if he's eaten something sugary or too many of even non glutenous grains, but that nagging problem of constipation is done with.

Bea

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Just to throw another idea in there- Have you tried eliminating anything other than gluten? For me soy just seems to shut stuff right down. That may not be the issue with you but if you are a fan of products with soy you might want to try avoiding them for a bit a see if it helps.

wschmucks Contributor

Hi thanks for the tips everyone. I am currently following the SCDiet which doesnt seem to be helping, and maybe making it worse, but i'm sticking it out for awhile. I will check to see which of your supplements are compliant with the diet-- thanks Bea!

I have tried elliminating many things-- i was vegan for a year (so i know its not dairy or eggs), i took out coffee (although before i was gluten-free), and now Im SCD with takes out all grains, most lactose, sugar and several carbohydrates. I dont really notice changes (some times with Gluten) with what i eat and my BM-- probably cause it might take so long to get back on track, i mean i cant do a 2 year test of everything!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    2. - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,336
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jeffrey Yeres
    Newest Member
    Jeffrey Yeres
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.