Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Thyroid Overmedication


Roda

Recommended Posts

Roda Rising Star

I have been having problems with tachycardia, insomnia, increased appetite, and have lost a couple of pounds. The other day I went for a routine gyn appt. and had a bad tachy episode at the office. The doctor sent me up for a stat thyroid pannel to r/o too much thyroid medication and an ekg (I've had proplems not related to thyroid). Much to my suprise my TSH was 0.05. Well thats never happened before. The only time I have had to decrease my thyroid meds was post partum. I have never been overactive otherwise, always had to go up in dose. He and I pretty much concluded now that I have been gluten free for almost five months that now I am absorbing my meds better. He had me cut my levothyroxine (125 mcg) in half until I can get to the endocrinologist on April 3rd. I am also on cytomel 5 mcg one tablet twice a day. He did not feel comfortable with doing anything with that. As crazy as it sounds I'm really happy. I feel that it is an indication that my villi are healing. I know the endocrinologist will probably adjust my meds down and that sounds good to me.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Juliebove Rising Star

I am off of thyroid meds now. I don't have celiac. Just food allergies. I used to eat a lot of soy products. When I stopped eating those, I no longer needed meds.

Gemini Experienced
I have been having problems with tachycardia, insomnia, increased appetite, and have lost a couple of pounds. The other day I went for a routine gyn appt. and had a bad tachy episode at the office. The doctor sent me up for a stat thyroid pannel to r/o too much thyroid medication and an ekg (I've had proplems not related to thyroid). Much to my suprise my TSH was 0.05. Well thats never happened before. The only time I have had to decrease my thyroid meds was post partum. I have never been overactive otherwise, always had to go up in dose. He and I pretty much concluded now that I have been gluten free for almost five months that now I am absorbing my meds better. He had me cut my levothyroxine (125 mcg) in half until I can get to the endocrinologist on April 3rd. I am also on cytomel 5 mcg one tablet twice a day. He did not feel comfortable with doing anything with that. As crazy as it sounds I'm really happy. I feel that it is an indication that my villi are healing. I know the endocrinologist will probably adjust my meds down and that sounds good to me.

Roda......what you are describing is happening to me right now. I have been gluten-free for 4 years in April and was on 150 mcg. of Levoxyl, plus 2 mcg of a compounded T3. All that ever happened was an increase in dosages.

About 6 months ago, I started to have symptoms of hyper-thyroid and my doctor cut out the T3. Everything calmed down and I went on my merry way. About a week ago, I started with these symptoms again and this time it was really bad. For the first time ever, I am wracked with anxiety, cannot sleep a wink at night and feel like someone slipped some speed into my water bottle. :o I don't do anxiety and am not that personality type. Well, needless to say, I called them back and, as I am going on a trip next week, I was freaking out that I would be all messed up while away. So the doctor has ordered me to stop my Levoxyl completely for one week and next Tuesday, when I leave on my trip, I am to cut my 150 mcg. tablets in half and take that amount for the duration. I am having blood drawn when I return.

I never thought an almost 50 year would show improvement like that! I know I am going to be slightly messed up until I figure out the right dosage again but to think my thyroid is healing has made me very happy! I wish you luck and my personal goal is going to see how low I can get that dose down! :D

Roda Rising Star

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that has dealt with this. I don't think I will ever to be able to get off thyroid meds completely, but at least I will be able to decrease my dosage. This just reinforsed to me that the diet it working. I was getting in a rut with food lately and craving things I shouldn't. But, alas I did not give into my yearnings. I am curious to see how this all plays out.

Gemini Experienced
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that has dealt with this. I don't think I will ever to be able to get off thyroid meds completely, but at least I will be able to decrease my dosage. This just reinforsed to me that the diet it working. I was getting in a rut with food lately and craving things I shouldn't. But, alas I did not give into my yearnings. I am curious to see how this all plays out.

It can be very easy to get in a rut with food, especially if you work for a living and don't have much time to play Betty Crocker! :lol:

I am lucky that I crave no gluten containing anything and my recovery, plus these events with my thyroid have re-inforced, like yourself, the rewards of being compliant. When a person becomes life-threateningly ill, it's amazing how that can change your attitude.

I also have my doubts about being able to dump the Levoxyl but if I can halve the dosage, I'll be over the moon!

Roda Rising Star

Well I made it to the endocrinologist today. She is decreasing my levothyroxine to 112 mcg and I am going to stay on my current dose of 5 mcg of cytomel twice a day. So I guess in about 4-6 weeks I'll see how I feel. She always orders blood tests on me every time I go. She did not need to repeat the thyroid tests since I just had that last week. I went to the lab and really wondered why all the tubes. Well she ordered her routine a complete blood count and complete metabolic pannel. Vitamin D tests were ordered again and to my suprise, she ordered a calcium test and parathyroid test. She did not mention to me that she thought there was a problem there. I have read a little about the parathyroid and think maybe it is because I am supplementing with the 50,000 iu of vitamin D once a week. I have been taking it since Jan. Anyone have any thoughts to share? I'm wondering if she suspects secondary hyperparathyroidism. I hope not, I don't need anything else to worry about. I am really now wishing that I had a bone mineral density test before I started the vitamin D in case it is the latter.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,334
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    johnfreirefr
    Newest Member
    johnfreirefr
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.