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Digestive Enzymes

LandonL

By LandonL
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LandonL Contributor
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what digestive enzymes are the best to take, how many different onces should be taken?

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Gfresh404 Enthusiast
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what digestive enzymes are the best to take, how many different onces should be taken?

It really depends on what your issues with food are. If you just have poor digestion in general, you want to get one that digests carbs, proteins, and fats. Most recovering celiacs really only have issues with fats, so only a lipase enzyme is necessary. However, I have found it difficult to get just a fat digesting enzyme unless you order online. So just look for a multi-one with the highest amount of lipase.

Digestive enzymes have personally helped me immensely. They make you realize how truly hungry you are and give you a great boost of energy.

Mrs. Smith Explorer
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I really like digestive enzymes, too. I take one by Enzymatic Therapy that is actually called gluten defense. It claims to help digest trace amounts of gluten and dairy. Digestion is one of my main issues and thanks to enzymes and acidophilus it has greatly improved. www.enzy.com is the link.

Mike47 Newbie
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I've been taking digestive enzymes for years. The plant derived enzymes seem to work better for me than the animal derived ones. I've tried almost every digestive enzyme product out there. Probably around 20 different ones. The big thing is that it doesn't contain an ingredient called Malt Diasitase. I'm pretty sure that that ingredient comes from barley or wheat of some kind. It doesn't bother my cousin who also has celiac but that ingredient tears me up. I can't take an enzyme product if it contains that. I took digest gold from Enzymedica for years but recently switched the Thropp's Nutritions. Its cheaper and has more enzyme activity in it. I only need one of theirs with each meal. You can find it with google. Mrs. Smith posted that she uses enzymatic therapies. I've tried that one too. It's good but not very strong, they don't put very much in the capsule so I had to take 4 or 5 with each meal. Good Luck

LandonL Contributor
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what exactly are the benefits of the digestive enzymes? should they only be taken if you struggle with constipation? do they in any way cause any harm?

one more mile Contributor
one more mile
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I take PB 8 which are a Pro-botic what is the difference between them and digestive enzymes?

mushroom Proficient
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I take PB 8 which are a Pro-botic what is the difference between them and digestive enzymes?

Digestive enzymes contain lipase (to digest fat) protease (for protein) cellulase (for cellulose), etc. They replace the enzymes which our pancreas is not producing enough of. Probiotics promote a healthy gut, but do not digest the food.

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