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Anyone Familar With Candida?


LuvMoosic4life

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O.K, so as of now I definitly know that GLUTEN and SOY are out of the question for me. Nightshades, dairy, corn, potato and a few others I am still experimenting with....staying away from nightshads/dairy the most!!

I started gettting new symptoms about a month ago where fruit/sugar and higher carb things would make me naucious....like wanting to puke naucious!!! I was looking into causes and read about candida. It made sense to me because I bought this new chicken broth a few weeks ago and YEAST was one of the ingredients. I coudnt figure out why I got horrible gas/bloating just from the chicken broth which was labled gluten-free on the web site and no gluten in the ingredients until I read about candida.. I also got the same symptoms form grapes and carrots the worse. OJ is something that I drink....rather drank every morning and now I cant :( I get nausea :(

I tried the candida diet for about a week and a half just to experiment and started feeling really good (minus cramping and fatigue in my muscles which I figure partially has to do with lack of potassium which I am already deficient in) Out of frustration of eating nothing but greens and meat, i started adding some grains back in (quinoa and brown rice sit O.K), and then in the past few days some fruit. I started with blueberries....no luck - got nausea and a glutened feeling. today I drank about a qaurter cup of OJ in the morning. I went running about an hour later and had to stop and walk b/c I was so naucious.

I really give up.

I don't know if candida is something that doctors can test for (or know anything about for that matter). I tried the saliva test where you spit in a glass full of water first thing in the morning and it forms clumpy white almost immediatly at the bottom of the glass. I can only imagine what my doctor is going to say when I go for my physical this fall and I tell him MORE foods are bothering me...and he already thinks I'm nuts for going Gluten Freee b/c he thinks it isnt my problem.....this will just make him think that even more!! ugh wahh!


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A lot of people here have had candida overgrowth problems in addition to celac. I have had it most of my life. In February I went off all grains as well as fruit and it really helped. However it just seemed to stay that way. Any grain or fruit and pretty soon the yeasty beasties were back. I am now on the specific carbohydrate diet (scd)--and its helping immensely. You should check it out!

Elaine Gottschall wrote a book called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" about scd. You can Google it and find out more. There is also a support thread for "the specific carbohydrate diet" here on celiac.com started by AliB that you might also want to check out.

By avoiding complex sugars and carbohydrates I can now eat fruit and some cheeses (and even occasionally a little honey) without ill effect. Seems a miracle to me! And eating 24 hour home made yogurt or cabbage juice seems to be key. By fermenting the yogurt 24 hours it get rid of all the complex lactose sugars and converts them to simple monosaccharides. Same with certain cheeses.

So is this candida overgrowth or is it just dysbiosis from eating things that are too difficult to digest? Seems mostly the latter for me. The dysbiosis thus seems to have been the cause of the candida overgrowth What it is for you I don't know, however the scd is a good way to starve out the critters in the meantime... You still have to stay off grains and mucilaginous herbs and vegetables (like slippery elm, marshmallow root, seaweed, flax seed and okra) but nevertheless it seems well worth it.

I still take garlic and oregano oil capsules, but have cut way back...

Meanwhile I eat squash to replace the carbs I otherwise would have gotten from eating grains. But avoid potatoes, yams and sweet potatoes (the sugars are too complex amazingly enough).

Your decision, but it might be worth a try.

Yes, and now I can also eat tomatoes as long as they aren't cooked! Thought it was a nightshade family problem too but it apparently really isn't.

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Your doctor can't test for candida overgrowth because, medically, there's no such thing as candida overgrowth causing leaky gut and other issues. Medical studies have disproven it, according to my doctors.

I have a bad reaction to a lot of chicken broths, too, when the sodium content is high. I have to stay away from high-sodium foods and anything containing high fructose corn syrup.

LuvMoosic4life Collaborator

thanks for the responses.

I don't know what it is for sure. I never had a problem with all of this stuff, it just seemed like all of sudden I started getting nausea after eating certain things. I have looked into the SCD, but I think I may look closer and give it a try. I also think I have some wacked out hormones (it could be causing it) but then certain digestive problems and foods can cause the wacked out hormones! haha i have very irregular cycles and fluctuactions with water wieght: there are days where i will wiegh 140 ibs and others 130. I'm 5'6.

As soon as my new health insurace goes through I will be going back to the gyno and primary once again. I was even looking into holistic medicine doctors! just dont have the money for that :(

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I don't have Celiac, but it took me a long long time to finally figure that out. If you think you might have Candida, my naturopath had me do a couple of stool tests (unpleasant, but useful) one of them a comprehensive parasitology and the other looked at amounts of bacteria and yeast. This second one is really important; supposedly everyone is supposed to have 3-4 lbs of bacteria living in the digestive system and it's supposed to be 80% good and 20% neutral. I had 0% good, of all of them. 80-20 and 0-100 is pretty messed up!

My yeast levels were elevated as well, so I got put on a candida diet (all I'm eating is meat, vegetables, eggs occasionally and almonds occasionally) and an antimicrobial, as well as digestive enzymes, fish oil and some other supplements. I did experience the "die-off," as for the first week I felt like I had the flu! But now, 3 weeks in I'm feeling much better and my digestive symptoms have started to improve. It's supposed to take a long time to kill the yeast and an even longer time to replenish the bacteria via probiotics, but once you start feeling better it all seems worth it.

Not the answer for everyone, but I have 15 months of endoscopy, colonoscopy, endless food allergy testing, bloodwork etc. etc. all leading to IBS!!!! Now I know that it's Candida and leaky gut for me, and I can tell you I'm never gonna wash down a cake with a can of soda again....ugh.

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