Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Results Back - Negative, What Now?


plumz64

Recommended Posts

plumz64 Newbie

My results came back negative to full panel blood test for coeliac and stool test for lactose intolerance. My B12 levels are normal, but I am anaemic.

The doctors first port of call was to put me on iron tablets. He said the results would indicate that I have IBS.

I asked him if this meant that I was imagining my reaction to gluten and he said, No that my reaction was very real it just wasn't affecting me in a way that would show up in tests. His advice was to stay gluten free for most of the time but to maybe allow myself something once a week or once a fortnight and see how I feel. He said the other way to approach matters was to ensure that meals I prepared myself were gluten-free, that I ordered gluten-free were possible when out, but didn't fuss too much about what could get past me from time to time, like the occasional slice of pizza, some lollies etc.

As for my assumed lactose problem, I actually think it might be coffee, cos I tended to get reactions when I drank lattes etc. I switched to soy and still have the same reaction, so maybe it's not the milk at al, especially seeing as I can eat cheese and yoghurt with no problem. I suppose the best way to tell is to have a cup of black coffee and see how I feel.

Any words of wisdom?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mushroom Proficient

My results came back negative to full panel blood test for coeliac and stool test for lactose intolerance. My B12 levels are normal, but I am anaemic.

The doctors first port of call was to put me on iron tablets. He said the results would indicate that I have IBS.

I asked him if this meant that I was imagining my reaction to gluten and he said, No that my reaction was very real it just wasn't affecting me in a way that would show up in tests. His advice was to stay gluten free for most of the time but to maybe allow myself something once a week or once a fortnight and see how I feel. He said the other way to approach matters was to ensure that meals I prepared myself were gluten-free, that I ordered gluten-free were possible when out, but didn't fuss too much about what could get past me from time to time, like the occasional slice of pizza, some lollies etc.

As for my assumed lactose problem, I actually think it might be coffee, cos I tended to get reactions when I drank lattes etc. I switched to soy and still have the same reaction, so maybe it's not the milk at al, especially seeing as I can eat cheese and yoghurt with no problem. I suppose the best way to tell is to have a cup of black coffee and see how I feel.

Any words of wisdom?

This whole area of non-celiac gluten intolerance is still very new and nobody really knows a lot about it. I really don't know if I am celiac or gluten intolerant, because I was never tested, but I will tell you my experience for what it's worth. My first symptoms (apart from an earlier gut infection with c. Difficile and a candida overgrowth in the small intestine) was lactose intolerance. I could eat cheese, yogurt, sour cream with no problem, but milk, cream and ice cream were gastric disasters. I also knew, from the doctor who tested me for c. Diff. that I was mildly allergic to soy (he did skin testing), so I gave up milk. But I had had problems with what I thought was corn, with the gas and bloating.

After years of complaints to doctors I finally decided to stop eating gluten after I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, because I read somewhere that a gluten free diet was used to treat some forms of rheumatoid arthritis. I was surprised that that alleviated my gas and bloating and diarrhea. I bought a lot of gluten free substitute foods, bread, cookies, etc., and broke out in a horrible rash (in addition to my psoriasis) which turned out to be coming from the soy that they put in so many gluten free foods. I had only been checking the labels for gluten, not soy. I learned from this forum that many people who are intolerant to gluten are also intolerant to soy. So I would suggest that you try almond or hemp milk as an alternative to soy, although some people do have problems with coffee too (I can't take the caffeine :( )

So the current thinking is if you are "merely" gluten intolerant and not celiac, that you have not done damage to your small intestine and therefore, with intact villi, you should be able to digest lactose. Since you have not had the biopsy, you do not know if you have intact villi, but if you are in fact lactose intolerant then it would seem to indicate that you have at least damaged the tips of the villi which produce the enzyme to digest milk. It would be really worthwhile knowing this, because there is often "false negatives" as they are currently called on the celiac blood panel, and also negative biopsies for people who respond positively to the gluten free diet. And that's where this whole grey area of gluten intolerance comes in. Is it just a pre-celiac condition, or is it something else? There have been genes identified individually for both celiac and gluten intolerance. Researchers are currently formulating and conducting studies on this issue.

My B12, folate and Vitamin D were low, but ferritin was fine. You are anemic but apparently other levels are okay? Were the others checked? Lack of absorption of nutrients is also indicative of some intestinal damage and that is also why it is all so confusing.

Your doctor seems to be sitting on the fence about gluten intolerance. The truth of the matter is that whether you are celiac or gluten intolerant, the treatment is the same--strict avoidance of gluten, not cheating, no holidays. Because gluten intolerants can do as much damage to themselves as celiacs, is my belief. The truth of the matter is that there currently is no definitive answer.

Here is a link which you might find interesting:

Open Original Shared Link

While this is merely one take on the subject, it is one I subscribe to.

I am sure you will get some other responses.

nora-n Rookie

There is a test more geared at gluten intolerance, the tests from Enterolab.

Celiac or gluten intolerant, you must be totally gluten free also with gluten intolerance.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - cristiana replied to Colleen H's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      16

      Ibuprofen

    2. - Mari replied to KathyR37's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      5

      New here

    3. - Colleen H replied to Colleen H's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      16

      Ibuprofen

    4. - Colleen H posted a topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      0

      Methylprednisone treatment for inflammation?

    5. - cristiana replied to Colleen H's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      16

      Ibuprofen


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,878
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Peta Dunn
    Newest Member
    Peta Dunn
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Ferritin levels.  And see what your hemoglobin looks like too, that will tell you if you are anemic?  You can have 'low normal' levels that will not be flagged by blood tests.  I had 'low normal' levels, my lab reading was. c12, just over what was considered normal, but I had small benign lesion on my tongue, and sometimes a sore mouth, and a consultant maxillofacial ordered an iron infusion for me as he felt my levels were too low and if he  raised them to 40, it would help.   Because you are not feeling 100% it might be worth looking at your levels, then discussing with your doctor if they are low normal.  But I stress, don't supplement iron without your levels being monitored, too much is dangerous.
    • Mari
      Hi Katht -  I sympathize with your struggles in following a gluten-free diet and lifestyle. I found out that I had Celiac Disease a few months before I turned 70. I just turned 89 and it has taken me almost 20 years to attain a fairly normal intestinal  function. I also lost a lot of weight, down to 100 lb. down from about 140 lb. What Trents wrote you was very true for me. I am still elimination foods from my diet. One person suggested you keep a food diary and that is a good idea but it is probably best just to do an elimination diet. There are several ne and maybe one for celiacs. I used one for a while and started with plain rice and zucchini and then added back other foods to see if I reacted or not. That helped a great deal but what I did not realise that it would only very small amounts of some foods to cause inflammation in my intestine. Within the last few years I have stopped eating any trace amounts of hot peppers, corn and soy(mostly in supplements) and nuts, (the corn in Tylenol was giving me stomach aches and the nuts were causing foot pains). Starting an elimination diet with white rice is better than brown rice that has some natural toxins. In addition it is very important to drink sufficient plain water. You can find out how much to drink for your height and weight online. I do have difficulty drinking 48 ounces of water but just recently have found an electrolyte supplement that helps me stay well hydrated, Adding the water and electrolytes may reduce muscle cramps and gag spams you wrote about. . Also buy some anti-gluten enzyme capsules to take with meals. I use GliadinX advertised here. These are a lot of things to do at one time as they reflect my 20 years of experience. I hope you do what you can manage to do over time. Good luck and take care.
    • Colleen H
      Yes thyroid was tested.. negative  Iron ...I'm. Not sure ... Would that fall under red blood count?  If so I was ok  Thank you for the detailed response..☺️
    • Colleen H
      Hi all !! Did anyone ever get prescribed methylprednisone steroids for inflammation of stomach and intestines?  Did it work ??  Thank you !! 
    • cristiana
      Hi Colleen Are you supplementing B12/having injections? I have learned recently that sometimes when you start addressing a B12 deficiency, it can temporarily make your symptoms worse.  But it is important not to stop the treatment.  Regarding your problems with anxiety, again that is another symptom of a B12 deficiency.   I didn't know what anxiety was until it hit me like a train several months before gastrointestinal issues began, so I can certainly relate.   Two books which helped me hugely were At Last A Life by Paul David (there is a website you can look up) and The Depression Cure: The Six-Step Programme to Beat Depression Without Drugs by Dr Steve Llardi.  Although his book is aimed at people who have depression, following the principals he sets out was so helpful in lessening my anxiety.  Llardi suggests we need to focus on getting enough: - physical exercise - omega-3 fatty acids - natural sunlight exposure - restorative sleep - social connectedness - meaningful, engaging activity   ... and we should feel a lot better. That is not to stay you must stop taking medication for depression or anxiety if you have been prescribed it, but adopting the changes Dr Llardi sets out in the book should really help. Can I just ask two more questions:  1) you say that you are B12 deficient, did they test your iron levels too?  If not, you really ought to be checked for deficiency and, 2) did they check your thyroid function, as an overactive thyroid can be cause rapid heartbeat and a lot of coeliacs have thyroid issues? Cristiana        
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.