Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Dysphagia + Gluten Intolerance


Peace41

Recommended Posts

Peace41 Rookie

Hello Board,

I have just joined, but don't know how much time I will be on here because I have now to start making another change in our life, re gluten free diet. I have just had a diagnosis, of gluten intolerance, H Pilori Bacteria along with lining damage. As well as my other disabilities. I have extreme sensitivity so if anyone responds to this question, can u respond sensitivetly please, because words can and do affect me.

What my question is, is dysphagia a symptom of gluten intolerance? Or is it part of something else.

I can deal with the stomach problems, can deal with a modified diet, although I am recovering from an adverse reaction to herbal suppplements and medication of which has caused the dsyphagia and gluten intolerance etc...could only eat five things since Christmas, now after having a flation (throat stretch), I can now eat double that amount. But the dsyphagia that is like anaphylaxis at the voice box and then mucus overload that stays in the one spot, is a little harder to deal with and take. Especially when ur muscles constrict at the voice box and u feel like u r being strangled and choked from the inside also by mucus overload and is made worse at night.

Or could this be what I suspect, I have multiple food intolerances or allergies or hypersensitivities caused by the adverse reaction?

And because my throat feels like it is swollen as well as sore, I can not eat a lot of things on the gluten diet as yet, can only drink one type of water nothing else, hope to one day that improves, but for now, have a lot to deal with. Would appreciate an answer quickly from someone who knows, thanks.

I am about to have another flation this friday and don't want this one, to be affected by what I eat. The last one, brought relief only lasted for hours, then I ate something, and then the constriction has been since that meal again, along with mucus overload.

Peace41


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



SGWhiskers Collaborator

I'm sorry you are dealing with so many health problems. It really takes a toll on our stress levels when our bodies turn on us. I hope you get through some of them as soon and easily as possible.

Before I start my post, I want to make two things clear. First, I am not a doctor and speaking with your doctor about your symptoms is the only advice I can suggest. Second is that everything I say is said with compassion and caring. Remember that in case I proceed to stick my foot in my mouth.

As part of my job, I work with patients with upper airway dysphagia. I'll give you the same information I would give if a coworker asked me the same question. I'm not aware of Celiac specifically causing dysphagia. Some causes which might be related to Celiac include: Neurologic damage leading to poor control of the swallow mechanism, a deficiency in one of the B vitamins (i forget which one) causing a laryngeal web that may affect the swallow, and the ever present possibility of other autoimmune disorders. Some of the ones that specifically cause dyphagia include dermatomytosis and sclerdomera. I did some research a while back, and saw about half a dozen autoimmune diseases that cause dysphagia, but celiac was not on the list, and I don't remember all the ones I came across. Additionally, GERD can cause symptoms that mimic or contribute to dysphagia. And certainly, an allergy causing an anaphalactic reaction would cause airway distress.

If you have not already had the following tests, I would talk to your doctor to see if they are appropriate for you. A Videoflouroscopic Swallow Study (also called a modified barium swallow, a VFSS, or a cookie swallow), and a esophagram (also called a barium swallow). Both are x-ray tests which look at the movement of different parts of the swallow. The first looks at the larynx and the function/safety of the airway during the swallow. The second looks at the function of the esophageus as food travels to the stomach.

People who have GERD sometimes develop irritation of the esophageus. The nerves which innervate the esophageus are the same or attached to the ones that innervate the larynx. Sometimes those irritated nerves get confused about where the signal is coming from and in technical lingo, freak out and tell the larynx to slam shut. Laryngeal spasm would be the term to google. It is scary as can be, but my understnanding is the body automatically release the spasm if it goes so long that you pass out. tight control of the GERD is the treatment.

Now the flip side is that you could be getting food or liquid into the larynx when you swallow which is dangerous. That is what the VFSS is to test for. As for the mucus, I don't know. It could be food residue from the pharynx, it could be allergy related, it could be lung related. The VFSS and asking your doctor about the mucus is the way I would go.

I wish you the best and hope you and your doctors can get to the bottom of your symptoms.

mommida Enthusiast

Hello,

I have a few questions, because my daughter has eosinophilic Esophagitis. Dysphagia can be a symptom of EE. Eosinophils are usually the bodies defense against parasites, and would be associated with H. Ployri.

Have you been tested for for any other medical conditions that cause dysphagia?

In Eosinophilic involvement with the gastro. system, gluten can be a "trigger" for the disease/disorder. So gluten can be related to dysphagia.

Have you found any things that are comforting when you are having dysphagia problems? Have you tried an elimination diet to determine if you have any "trigger" foods?

:) ((HUGS)) :)

Peace41 Rookie

Hello SGWhiskers and Mommida,

Thanku for replying and sharing and will have a look at the larynix spasms. I hope ur daughter gets better Mommida. What do u do for ur daughter or did ur daughter and does ur daughter have dysphagia with it? I am hoping the flations will solve the dysphagia it is suppose to solve majority of swallowing problems.

I believe the dysphagia came from the herbal supplement and medication induced esophegus injury which in the cases I have read, all of them got dsyphagia. Because I never had it before, even though I have had gerds for years, and at different times difficulty in swallowing things from time to time, but nothing like I am living with now.

And I will also look into the neurological component, because my brain was affected through the whole ordeal and my stomach can spasm when I am in severe stress and distress.

And as for the stomach and bowel thing, yes I have the H Pilori, but can't do anything about it, and yes I have gerds and irritable bowel and have the worst reflux and constipation with it. But when I have the throat stretch, I have normal burps and no reflux. It feels so good, just after I have it. I do have esophegitis and also gastritis. But I am also blessed that nothing is getting stuck anymore, it did when I first ate toast after it happened, it was dreadful, but the hospital that gave it to me, just sent me home, thinking I was imagining the whole thing, while I had to put up with toast sticking at the back of my throat. Thank goodness it cleared.

I also got some gluten bread, and I really like it is easy to eat, and soft to swallow, its lovely to eat right now. But a chocolate gluten biscuit is not, it burnt the back of my throat along with worsening the constriction.

As for the comfort, I get my comfort, from God, who gives me peace through this at different times along with patience, I also don't swallow at different times to get a break. and to give my throat a rest. I go to the local hospital for them to check my vitals, when I feel really bad and have chest pain with it, along with when I was bad with it and became breathless and pain in my chest had an ecg. I also have panick attacks and become so tired that I fall asleep after it. When I fall asleep I stay asleep alnight and that is a blessing. And hugging my son, is lovely and he talks to me also when I am bad with it at night. And sleeping at 45 degree angle also helps, can't sleep on my side. I am also starting a distance ed course on accounting, going to still be learning to draw, paint etc...and am learning the keyboard, which helps to take my mind of this throat thing, and doing ballet. Going to be starting a private lesson, with a ballet teacher who is aware of my disabilities and knows I need to be gentle, so i will be trying to do a 30 minute lesson, also do a baby bit of pilates, just the posture stance for now. I have to ask my doctor if ballet is okay as well, but hopefully it will be.

And thanku for the hug and hugs to u, thanku for u both for ur help will also talk to the doctor again after the flation, probably next week, and seeing my doctor this week and will discuss some things with her. Re my son getting tested to see if he is gluten intolerant, but also for both of us to get referred to an immunologist/allergist. We are going to look into getting desensitised etc...so if I have to take medication I possible can, through a desensitation program, or the very least, dealing with the hypersensitivities which have worsened as a result.

Peace41

  • 1 year later...
drdoug Newbie

My body started having trouble swallowing when I was 15. I went to several doctors and did the barium swallows etc. and they sent me away and told me it was all in my head, but I still couldn't swallow even water sometimes.

Last year I started doing yoga and my swallowing improved but I still couldn't eat a steak at a restaurant without having to excuse myself with a bite stuck in my throat. Then I had a friend suggest Enterolab.com and I got tested. I have genes for celiac from both mom and dad. So, I went completely off gluten as best I can. Within 1 month, I can now swallow a LOT easier, I even ate a steak at a nice restaurant recently and everything went down easily.

In conjunction with the swallowing issues, I used to get regular nose sores that looked like herpes (herpatiform lesions) and now I haven't had one since going gluten free. I also used to have migraines fairly regularly which are now just history.

I still have some issues with hot peppers, they seem to mess with my throat and digestive symptoms, but I can live without them.

I can now tell when I've had gluten, my hands (more in my right) swell up just like rheumatoid arthritis the next morning, I get a headache that will last for 2-3 days and my digestive system shuts down for 2-3 days and one rash over my temple starts to itch badly.

So, I continue to do my yoga, I believe the stretching helps my esophagus still, perhaps it is still healing. I have put on some good weight (I was really thin) and I am feeling a LOT better these days.

Good luck all!

mommida Enthusiast

Interesting to hear that yoga helps!

My daughter is doing well. She has not had and dysphagia. (Knock on wood) We are heading into the bad time of the airborn seasonal alergies.

Always take your time for eating. No rushing rushind aroud for a quick bite.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      49

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    3. - Florence Lillian replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      11

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    5. - cristiana replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      21

      Insomnia help

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,355
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Amy Immerman
    Newest Member
    Amy Immerman
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
    • cristiana
      Thank you for your post, @nanny marley It is interesting what you say about 'It's OK not to sleep'. Worrying about sleeping only makes it much harder to sleep.  One of my relatives is an insomniac and I am sure that is part of the problem.  Whereas I once had a neighbour who, if she couldn't sleep, would simply get up again, make a cup of tea, read, do a sudoku or some other small task, and then go back to bed when she felt sleepy again.  I can't think it did her any harm - she lived  well into her nineties. Last week I decided to try a Floradix Magnesium supplement which seems to be helping me to sleep better.  It is a liquid magnesium supplement, so easy to take.  It is gluten free (unlike the Floradix iron supplement).  Might be worth a try.        
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.