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So, had a random crying spell this morning, depression and fatigue and headache even though I felt really good when I woke up (slept 9 hours, woke up naturally). I want to punch through a window or just sob. No reason. School is going well and I'm getting the hang of this celiac thing. But I just want to cry and cry.

Looked at the Maranatha almond butter that I had with breakfast today because I needed the protein. "May contain traces of soy......"

GAERHRHGAEHEATGEAFL

I had it on gluten-free SF chips for dinner last night too, so there'll be a little buildup. Besides this I have been very diligent about cutting out soy (ALL forms) for about a week. Since I cut out soy I haven't had these random sleep and depression attacks.

So I guess this means I definitely have a very serious soy intolerance? This is the 3rd depression "attack" that I can link to soy or soy lecithin.

I have no reason to be depressed except for that this is another food item I spent more money than usual on (costs more than PB) that I will have to throw or give away, which is frustrating. When I am using the reasoning part of my brain I feel pretty good. I laugh at jokes in class and enjoy people's company. But I am holding back the randomest tears and the front and back of my head hurts and sometimes my vision is a little off, like it's sliding around (if that makes sense to any of you).

WHEN WILL THIS END? That's what I want to know. When will I stop making mistakes and start feeling better on a consistent basis?? I only have a month left of school before I GRADUATE and I don't want to spend it feeling so bad!

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WHEN WILL THIS END? That's what I want to know. When will I stop making mistakes and start feeling better on a consistent basis?? I only have a month left of school before I GRADUATE and I don't want to spend it feeling so bad!

It doesn't really end, you know? If you're intolerant to multiple foods, you're always on the look-out. I have this problem, too.

The good news is that you'll find your go-to foods and you can eat these without worry. If you want to add something new, that's when you have to worry all over again. Also, when you go out to eat or eat at someone's house. That's a worry, too. But once you find your go-to foods, you'll start to feel better. Make sure you find some go-to foods that are fast and tasty. Also, make sure some of them are snack foods that you can carry with you.

I'm a "no gluten, dairy, nuts, or corn" girl, so I know what you mean about feeling bad. I felt bad for a LONG time! But you'll figure it out. Unfortunately, it might take a while. I don't want to sugar-coat it. Eat fruits and veggies and protein. Nuts if you can. Those will be safe-bets. Then add processed foods slowly.

Good luck! Congrats on graduating!

Strawberry-Jam Enthusiast
Strawberry-Jam
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I was just wondering... does anyone else react to soy like this...?

eatmeat4good Enthusiast
eatmeat4good
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I am sorry you are feeling so bad, but I am so pleased with you that you post what you are experiencing. I am wondering the same things and experimenting like you.

Yesterday I got weak and used Hazelnut Coffeemate which has a may contain soy statement. Other than that I have successfully aboided soy for a few weeks. After I drank the coffee with coffee mate I started getting a low grade headache in the back of my head that kept getting worse. Like you describe. I didn't connect it. The headache lasted all evening and I had to use migraine medicine.

Today when I read your post, I thought Aha! It might be the soy.

I had no idea we could be that sensitive to soy...it is maddening. I hope your reaction passes soon, but thank you so much for your posts because I never would have connected the soy with headaches and depression. I will be watching my reactions more carefully...and my food. Hope you feel better soon girl! Thank you for all the information.

Strawberry-Jam Enthusiast
Strawberry-Jam
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I've definitely linked the soy to out-of-the-blue depression, even traces... I can't think of anything else it could be. food diary to the rescue.

but I'm still having waves of fatigue especially in the afternoon/evening and I'm still having headaches (some of which are tension headaches I know because my neck hurts too from bad posture recently, but not all of them are from that). It's weird because I'll feel GREAT in the morning often but then have a wave of fatigue by end of day. I'm going to chalk it up to healing/getting over accidents for now and see if that's the answer.

...so yeah, depression attacks linked to soy, along with mondo headache, but sleep/fatigue attacks not sure about yet. that but maybe something else too. or maybe healing. we'll see.

annegirl Explorer
annegirl
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Hey, I totally know the suck that you're going through. :( I don't know if this goes for you, but I try and keep in mind that I already feel so much better!

Soy messes me up pretty bad. Last time I had some I had to take a day off from work, and really should have taken another. The only way to describe how I feel is I feel like I'm engulfed in a toxic cloud and I have a horrible "chemical" headache. It's pretty sneaky, but at least it's required to be listed as an allergen so you're a little safer!

If you're still feeling bad you might take a look at corn. I had no idea how bad it was messing me up until I took everything else out and really noticed the symptoms. I just discovered today that rice gives me the same reactions so you might think on that as well. Be aware that corn is in more things than gluten or soy, there is also the downside that it is not considered an allergen so it is not listed in ingredient labels as such.

Looks like you're right about a month behind me on "losing foods." I know it can be really depressing, and I'm really sorry. Again, I've really tried to focus on the positives. I'm eating waaaay better, feel way better even with the other food issues popping up and I've lost 20 pounds in 2 months so there is a lot for me to be thankful for (and yes, I have to repeat this over and over to myself);)

Hang in there, and congratulations on nearing graduation! That in itself could be the reason for your fatigue. :) School is tough work!

Strawberry-Jam Enthusiast
Strawberry-Jam
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People keep telling me to give up corn, but I think that part of what I need is patience. The neurological issues are the last to clear up, so they say. My headaches and fatigue will take more than four weeks to dissappear (or one week if you count from my going off of soy).

I don't eat corn every day either... Mostly rice etc. I'm off almost all processed foods. Some of these headaches and fatigue waves come from nowhere, and some are sleep deprivation-related, as I'm still experiencing disturbed sleep (less than before, but it's still there). So I have to keep reminding myself that time is key here.

And AVOIDING SOY ARGGGH.

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Oh no!!!! There is soy in chocolate???? Soy lecithin. Oh no!!!!!!! Thanks for making me realize this and now why I have back slid a good bit. Thank you so much. I had avoided soy and thought I had been diligent. Now I can heal even more.Thanks again.

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