Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Eating Disorders & Celiac Disease


GlutenFreeJess

Recommended Posts

GlutenFreeJess Newbie

Hello Everyone! I am a pretty new member here, but not-so new to being dx with Celiac Disease. I was diagnosed with Celiac in 2008 via a Celiac Panel that came back positive.

I have a very lengthy history with an eating disorder, and while I have stopped binging and purging and starving, I still have food issues.

I have struggled to remain gluten free since my diagnosis, and I believe this challenge is directly related to the eating disorder and food issues.

I *know* I need to be 100% gluten free for my health, yet it's taken me so long to be able to trust food, that I find myself saying "just this once won't hurt me". Problem is, "just this once" turns into several times a week plus.

It's getting to the point that eating gluten is affecting my health. I see and feel it. It's also affecting me emotionally.

I am in therapy, and also attend a 12 step program for eating disorders, and am working on this diligently.

Just wondering if anyone else out there relates? I kind of feel like a fish out of water because it seems almost easy for people to just stop eating gluten and to get on with their lives, but for me it's a constant battle.

Thanks for listening :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tictax707 Apprentice

Hi Jessica,

I think I get what you are saying about being a fish out of water, but really, it's NOT easy for many of us to just quit eating gluten in a flash. For some it is easier than others because they are so sick, but if you read around many of the posts here, people do struggle with accepting the diagnosis and adjusting to the diet, and missing the foods they used to be able to eat. Plenty of people still "cheat" and plenty of us still yell at them for it. ;) Really, spend some time reading around the posts here so you can really see that you are not alone in battling the cheating, or in accepting this disease.

It's rough because I think part of the overcoming EDs has to do with not restricting yourself in terms of food and then here comes celiac that says no gluten and it's everywhere (holy restrictions batman!). I trust that in your therapy you are discussing this whole new obstacle of celiac disease...?

What I am trying to say is that you really aren't as alone as you think. Also, it's not uncommon for people to present with eating disorder behavior after a diagnosis with celiac sprue or any other diagnosis that turns your food world on its ear in a second. I'm not sure if it really helps, but know that the battles you face may not be as directly related to the eating disorder, and it's a constant battle for many of us, not just you!! I've been diagnosed for almost 8 years and although it's not overwhelming anymore - it's definitely not a piece of cake. I've definitely struggled with issues with food because of adjusting to the diet. I remember seeing another post a while back that someone else here had struggled with an eating disorder before becoming diagnosed, so you are not alone in that regard either. So anyway, welcome! Take a deep breath, and let us help you along your journey. This place is a great resource. :)

revenant Enthusiast

Hang in there, I'm going through the same thing. Not with gluten or soy, I have managed to give those ones up for around 8 months (excluding accidents) because they both do a lot of harm mentally for me and I get really suicidal on them, so it's easy to stay away from. But with my other food intolerances; nightshades, corn, dairy in particular. I managed to give them up for a month or two and I stopped binge eating as a result. Unfortunately it returned and I haven't been able to give them up completely. They still do a ton of harm mental and physical to me but the thing is food intolerances are what feeds my binge eating, without them I wouldn't binge eat, and there's that part of me that wants to binge eat out of this or that reason (stress, fear, etc) so I end up going back to them. It's extremely damaging, especially on mental health. I'm currently suffering with depression and social anxiety that keeps me in my house, alone and miserable, and I know it's a direct cause of not dropping these foods from my diet. Not to mention, I'm gaining a lot of weight and suffer from BDD which prevents me from leaving the house in the first place...Oof.. sorry bit of a rant there!

I think there are a lot of us out there. I personally think that most binge eating is caused by food intolerances. Most people ARE bingeing on gluteny or dairy-y things, in the end... Doughnuts, cake, icecream, cookies, pizza.... Pizza, pfft, all it is is gluten casein and nightshades! No wonder people love it so much!

How do you not restrict when you have to for your health?

Have you tried telling yourself that you can eat whatever you want? Even if at first you choose to eat it, try to remove the guilt by realizing that you might be saving yourself from even MORE gluten if you were to binge on it. Eventually, you may choose not to eat gluten simply because you don't want to feel like that anymore. You can still use the 'no restrictions' method, it doesn't mean that you can go at whatever right now. In fact, the fact that you "can't" eat gluten might actually be that you don't want to eat gluten because of its effects. I think what having no restrictions does is set your goals/values straight and turn something impersonal and external like "can't" into something personal and directly related to you, such as "want". You might want the gluteny thing but you also want to get a good night's rest, have a nice day tomorrow with a friend and not be in a horrible mood, not threaten your physical or mental health, be able to go for a walk (if you get joint pain) etc....

I'm probably not much help but feel free to contact me! This is a specific problem where it seems not many people are available to talk about it.

Kim69 Apprentice

I too have issues with food. I have been gluten-free for about a year. I also have fructose malabsorption so I am on further restrictive diet. Still I have constant abdominal pain. I feel weak and tired. I am managing to work full-time but my brain is foggy. Before Xmas I was told I had rapid gastric emptying syndrome - the specialist told me I couldn't eat normal sized meals or drink with a meal. Any wonder that I am sick and tired of food! All food seems to make me ill.

I am on antidepressants (was on them prior tinting diagnosed and they helped drag me out of suicidal depression).

I discussed these issues with a therapist before xmas - I told her I almost feared eating. At the time i was investigating liquid forms of nourishment which my therapist strongly opposed me doing. Since then I have followed her advice and have eaten the foods I have been told I could eat. But I am still in pain and its pretty depressing not feeling like going for a bike ride or a walk like I used to.

I am finding this foumr useful because it's good to know that I am not alone.

Scarlett January Newbie

YESSSS! I so relate to this (argh, it is really hard to type right cuz two of my fingers are numb from an accidental ingestion of gluten 3 days ago).

I am also in a 12 step program for ED and although I have had binge-purge free periods I do still struggle with it occasionally. I went gluten-free about 8 months ago, without any formal diagnosis because I had such strong suspicions and no doctor would take me seriously. Well, surprise surprise, when I went gluten free I stopped having gastro-intestinal problems, and stopped having numbness in my hands, joint and muscle pain, night sweats etc. But I really struggled at first, particularly when I wanted to binge. It took me a while to completely switch to gluten-free, even for my binge foods. Eventually the suffering from symptoms after a gluten-filled binge became too much and I now no longer "cheat" and eat gluten on purpose...EVER! In fact, normally I can't keep any sweets in my house AT ALL or I will binge on them. Now when there are sweets in my home that don't even list gluten ingredients but which I cannot confirm to be gluten-free I am not even tempted to eat them. This is simply amazing for someone like me who has struggled with an ED for 16 years! (You probably understand what a big deal that is.)

I understand that it is very hard to accept this as someone with an ED. Sometimes the meals I will eat in a day are the reason I get out of bed in the morning (god that sounds pathetic...but sometimes its just true.) i have found some relief from the sense that I am being deprived by really putting in the time and energy to find REALLY REALLY DELICIOUS alternatives. They are out there! I am fortunate to live in a big city where there are a lot of options. Also, I have done a lot of experimenting with gluten free cooking at home. I think the thing that I miss the most are the "fast food" options and by that I don't necessarily mean junk food, I just mean the convenience of being able to grab a quick and convenient snack or meal somewhere. To solve this problem I cook big batches of stirfries, pastas, traditional meat and potatoes type dinners, soups etc and freeze them in single servings. Then, if I know I will be out for the day and will need something to eat I just take one or two with me and I can always stop by a 7-11 or somewhere with a microwave to heat up my food. voila! "Fast food".

I hope this is helpful. If you have any specific questions about dealing with celiac with an ED I would be happy to respond again.

Please remember: you are not alone in this!

:-)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - xxnonamexx posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      0

      Fermented foods, Kefir, Kombucha?

    2. - SamAlvi replied to SamAlvi's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      7

      High TTG-IgG and Normal TTG-IgA

    3. - knitty kitty replied to lizzie42's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      6

      Son's legs shaking

    4. - lizzie42 replied to lizzie42's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      6

      Son's legs shaking

    5. - knitty kitty replied to lizzie42's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      6

      Son's legs shaking

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,876
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    pilber309
    Newest Member
    pilber309
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      I have read fermented foods like sauerkraut, pickles, Kefir, Kombucha are great for gut health besides probiotics. However I have searched and read about ones that were tested (Kefir, Kombucha) and there is no clear one that is very helpful. Has anyone take Kefir, Kombucha and noticed a difference in gut health? I read one is lactose free but when tested was high in lactose so I would probably try a non dairy one. Thanks
    • SamAlvi
      Thanks again for the detailed explanation. Just to clarify, I actually did have my initial tests done while I was still consuming gluten. I stopped eating gluten only after those tests were completed, and it has now been about 70 days since I went gluten-free. I understand the limitations around diagnosing NCGS and the importance of antibody testing and biopsy for celiac disease. Unfortunately, where I live, access to comprehensive testing (including total IgA and endoscopy with biopsy) is limited, which makes things more complicated. Your explanation about small-bowel damage, nutrient absorption, and iron-deficiency anemia still aligns closely with my history, and it’s been very helpful in understanding what may be going on. I don't wanna get Endoscopy and I can't start eating Gluten again because it's hurt really with severe diarrhea.  I appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed and informative guidance. Thank you so much for this detailed and thoughtful response. I really appreciate you pointing out the relationship between anemia and antibody patterns, and how the high DGP IgG still supports celiac disease in my case. A gluten challenge isn’t something I feel safe attempting due to how severe my reactions were, so your suggestion about genetic testing makes a lot of sense. I’ll look into whether HLA testing is available where I live and discuss it with my doctor. I also appreciate you mentioning gastrointestinal beriberi and thiamine deficiency. This isn’t something any of my doctors have discussed with me, and given my symptoms and nutritional history, it’s definitely worth raising with them. I’ll also ask about correcting deficiencies more comprehensively, including B vitamins alongside iron. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to help. I’ll update the forum as I make progress.
    • knitty kitty
      Blood tests for thiamine are unreliable.  The nutrients from your food get absorbed into the bloodstream and travel around the body.  So, a steak dinner can falsely raise thiamine blood levels in the following days.  Besides, thiamine is utilized inside cells where stores of thiamine are impossible to measure. A better test to ask for is the Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test.  But even that test has been questioned as to accuracy.  It is expensive and takes time to do.   Because of the discrepancies with thiamine tests and urgency with correcting thiamine deficiency, the World Health Organization recommends giving thiamine for several weeks and looking for health improvement.  Thiamine is water soluble, safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   Many doctors are not given sufficient education in nutrition and deficiency symptoms, and may not be familiar with how often they occur in Celiac disease.  B12 and Vitamin D can be stored for as long as a year in the liver, so not having deficiencies in these two vitamins is not a good indicator of the status of the other seven water soluble B vitamins.  It is possible to have deficiency symptoms BEFORE there's changes in the blood levels.   Ask your doctor about Benfotiamine, a form of thiamine that is better absorbed than Thiamine Mononitrate.  Thiamine Mononitrate is used in many vitamins because it is shelf-stable, a form of thiamine that won't break down sitting around on a store shelf.  This form is difficult for the body to turn into a usable form.  Only thirty percent is absorbed in the intestine, and less is actually used.   Thiamine interacts with all of the other B vitamins, so they should all be supplemented together.  Magnesium is needed to make life sustaining enzymes with thiamine, so a magnesium supplement should be added if magnesium levels are low.   Thiamine is water soluble, safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  There's no harm in trying.
    • lizzie42
      Neither of them were anemic 6 months after the Celiac diagnosis. His other vitamin levels (d, B12) were never low. My daughters levels were normal after the first 6 months. Is the thiamine test just called thiamine? 
    • knitty kitty
      Yes, I do think they need a Thiamine supplement at least. Especially since they eat red meat only occasionally. Most fruits and vegetables are not good sources of Thiamine.  Legumes (beans) do contain thiamine.  Fruits and veggies do have some of the other B vitamins, but thiamine B 1 and  Cobalamine B12 are mostly found in meats.  Meat, especially organ meats like liver, are the best sources of Thiamine, B12, and the six other B vitamins and important minerals like iron.   Thiamine has antibacterial and antiviral properties.  Thiamine is important to our immune systems.  We need more thiamine when we're physically ill or injured, when we're under stress emotionally, and when we exercise, especially outside in hot weather.  We need thiamine and other B vitamins like Niacin B 3 to keep our gastrointestinal tract healthy.  We can't store thiamine for very long.  We can get low in thiamine within three days.  Symptoms can appear suddenly when a high carbohydrate diet is consumed.  (Rice and beans are high in carbohydrates.)  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so symptoms can wax and wane depending on what one eats.  The earliest symptoms like fatigue and anxiety are easily contributed to other things or life events and dismissed.   Correcting nutritional deficiencies needs to be done quickly, especially in children, so their growth isn't stunted.  Nutritional deficiencies can affect intelligence.  Vitamin D deficiency can cause short stature and poor bone formation.   Is your son taking anything for the anemia?  Is the anemia caused by B12 or iron deficiency?  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.