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The gist of this process:

1. Some food (or molecule or protein or parts thereof) gets into the blood stream. It may be that this item is supposed to get into the blood stream or it is pulled into the blood stream too early (the enzymes or bacteria have not yet fully disassembled the item) or it should never enter the blood stream.

2. The body


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I voted yes on both for myself. When I went in the Air Force the shot me full of various compounds (they said they were important) that were supposed to fight diseases. Pretty sure they hit all the major known diseases in the line of shot blasters.

Ok, a couple thotz on the theories.

There is research on a chemical called zonulin that acts in the intestine widen the inter-villi spacing. Some thinking is about that in celiacs zonulin acts better than in other people, or more of it is made, or it doesn't break down as fast. Read some of Dr Alessio Fassano's research, pretty sure he discovered it.

Bacteria die-off. I pretty much think that all the preservatives people eat these days are a not so good thing. Almost all processed foods are loaded with enough preservatives to keep any bacteria from growing for a long time. That's why they can sit around unrefrigerated on store shelves for months before being eaten. Of course there are natural anti-biotics too, like garlic. But garlic doesn't stay "fresh" for 8 months unrefrigerated. So not the same thing. But, on the other hand, bacteria are very adaptable. That's why they found those bacteria colonies living in sulphuric acid in Yellow stone hot pools. So they can adapt and get by purty good, and even thrive. I read that 50% of the stool bulk is bacteria. There is a real good bacteria colony thriving in the colony that helps finish off the final digestion stage. So, we essentially use preservatives to breed stronger tougher bacteria in our bodies. Good thing? Not sure it is, but I don't know really. We already have H.Pylori, that thrives in sulphric acid in our stomachs, and is hard to kill off. How much tougher a bacteria strain do we need to breed?

What doesn't kill us makes us stronger? Or our bacterial friends anyway...

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i dont even think you have to get that scientific. bottom line is- a vaccine "jolts" the immune system. if you have genes that predispose you to an autoimmune disease- then you may be gambling. you dont even have to get into all the poisons they put in there to understand that some of us may end up having our diseases "triggered" by these jolts.

of course there's studies too showing that the Rotavirus can trigger Celiac... so, to me it makes sense- a germ or a vaccine can jolt our immune systems. i think another problem is that when we get sick in real life- we encounter 1 or 2 viruses or bacteria in the same period of time- we never have to fight off 6-8 viruses in one 30second period.- it's just too much- it's not natural-

i have never had the hep b or flu, and will never either. the only one in my family to get the flu vacc was my brother- and he got a 2 week flu from it.

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I voted yes on both questions for my 6 yr old and myself. I had never gotten a flu vaccine until I was an adult working in healthcare and I recieved my hep b vaccine when I was 18 just entering college. My 6 yr old got his hep b as an infant and had had yearly flu vaccines up until this year. Last year I got him the regular flu but not the h1n1 and forgot to take him this season for either. This was the first year I recieved the flu vaccine for both (it was all in one shot). Noone in my family has ever gotten sick from taking the flu vaccine. Have we still gotten the flu? Yes.. the vaccine does not protect you from every flu virus, and with myself in health care, two kids in public school and a husband who is in the grocery industry we are exposed to almost everything coming and going. For the most part, with the exception of strep recently for my 6 yr old, we are pretty darn lucky that we don't get sick to often.

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