Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Endoscopy Scheduled


Duhlina

Recommended Posts

Duhlina Apprentice

So, I went and saw the Nurse Practitioner at the Gastro Dr.'s office yesterday (if I had to wait to see the actual doctor it would have been several months). My blood test levels all came back as 'low positive' for celiac, so she wants to do an endoscopy with a biopsy to confirm. I have been gluten free for a little over two weeks now and the test is another week and a half away (9/26). I asked if I needed to start eating gluten again before the test and she surprisingly said no?? She said it takes a good 6-8 weeks for things to calm down in there so they should still be able to tell with a biopsy. By the time of the biopsy I will be gluten-free for almost 4 weeks.

I'm not so sure I agree with that from what I've read? I'm not thinking I want to go out on a bender and ingest gluten with every meal, but I think I should be eating SOME?!!?! Although I have been dreaming of that bender....hahaha....pizza, beer, fried calamari, fried chicken, big doughy hard rolls...mmmmm......

What say you?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

I think you should go back on gluten until the biopsy to give you the best chance of an accurate result. Be aware you could still have a false negative. You may find that even though you haven't been gluten-free for long that adding it back in makes you very ill. Let them know if it does.

Roda Rising Star

I say go back on it too. A month in some people could make a difference. Keep a log of your symptoms and reactions though in case it gets too bad and you can't make it eating gluent until the scope. Or you can use it as diagnositic info.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Also make sure they take multiple biopsies, I think 6 to 8 are advised not the one or two that some doctors do. And they should come from different areas of the small intestine.

Duhlina Apprentice

Also make sure they take multiple biopsies, I think 6 to 8 are advised not the one or two that some doctors do. And they should come from different areas of the small intestine.

Yeah, from the sounds of what she explained it gave me the impression they would be doing one. Will they be offended if I insist on more? I don't want to tell them how to do their job, but I also don't want it to all be for nothing!!!

Roda Rising Star

Yeah, from the sounds of what she explained it gave me the impression they would be doing one. Will they be offended if I insist on more? I don't want to tell them how to do their job, but I also don't want it to all be for nothing!!!

This is how I put it to the doctor that did my oldest son's scope/biopsy. If she wasn't going to take the minimum of 6-8 samples we weren't going to bother with the exam at all! I told her this when she came in the room to talk to us before going back. His biopsy was completely normal, but we chose to do a trial of gluten free anyway.

Duhlina Apprentice

Well, I've been eating a little bit of gluten this week since the endoscopy is scheduled for Monday and, after being gluten free for two weeks, I notice the following:

1. My first ingestion of gluten (fried calamari) gave me a migraine and I've had a low grade headache all week.

2. I haven't had any stomach 'issues' other than my stomach seems to make strange noises at the most inopportune times. But it hasn't made me sick to my stomach at all, which surprises me.

3. My 't-zone' on my face is back to being an oil slick.

4. My depression is creeping in again.

5. I'm not sleeping as well.

6. The bloating is back, but not nearly as bad as it was when I was full gluten.

7. The gluten-y things that I previously loved only taste 'meh' to me now. I can definitely live without them and be fine with it.

8. EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING, aches. I feel like I'm walking like my 94 year old Grandmother used to walk and I'm only 43!

It's obvious to me that gluten free is the way to go, for me, regardless of what the biopsy says!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



lucky28 Explorer

Hi, I was miserable the last few weeks before my biopsy. I really glutened it up! I tried to think of all the stuff I loved or wanted to try and ate it all. I remember how horrible I felt but kept on because I really wanted to get the most bang for the buck so to speak, from my biopsy. My blood work was very low positive, only the ttg was slightly raised, and I tested positive for the dq2 or 2.5 gene. So I really wanted to push it over the edge, if I had it I wanted it to show on biopsy. Why spend the time and the money if it's only gonna be 1/2 arsed? Try to keep it up until your appt!

navigator Apprentice

I originally refused the scope and biopsy( May this year) as I didn't want to go back on gluten. However,my G.P.(who is very good and diagnosed me on blood results and my daughters having coeliac))persuaded me In June that it would be in my best interest to be referred to GI. I've had my appointment and I'm getting it on 26th Oct and the GI requested that I try to eat gluten every day until the scope. I have been back on gluten for two and a half weeks. I do feel terrible and could not have done this if I hadn't resigned from my work at the beginning of June. However, as I'm at home I've decided that I'm going to stick with it. I figure if I'm going to go through with having the scope I want the best chance to get a positive result. Try to stick with it.

Duhlina Apprentice

Hi, I was miserable the last few weeks before my biopsy. I really glutened it up! I tried to think of all the stuff I loved or wanted to try and ate it all. I remember how horrible I felt but kept on because I really wanted to get the most bang for the buck so to speak, from my biopsy. My blood work was very low positive, only the ttg was slightly raised, and I tested positive for the dq2 or 2.5 gene. So I really wanted to push it over the edge, if I had it I wanted it to show on biopsy. Why spend the time and the money if it's only gonna be 1/2 arsed? Try to keep it up until your appt!

I'm trying! I SO want to have my favorite beer, but I just can't seem to do it. Maybe this weekend. What were the results of your biopsy? I'm really curious to know what they are going to see/find come Monday. I too tested low positive on the blood work.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,331
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kristy2026
    Newest Member
    Kristy2026
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.