Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Neg Lab Test


fivemtnman

Recommended Posts

fivemtnman Newbie

Hi I have been having lots of trouble for 6 mos.now. I am a 44yr old male. Everything is normal except I get episodes of severe abdominal pain and fever with high white cell counts every now and then. The Dr did at least 12 tests the last of which was a capsule endo. She said there was some dry patches consistent with celiac disease but Antibody tests did not confirm it. I get the impression from her that I am to wait until things get worse so she can find the prob. Is there another way?

I also have a definite DX of Stage 3 sarcoidosis in my lungs that is in remission. My fathe and grandfather both died of colon cancer.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gf4life Enthusiast
I get the impression from her that I am to wait until things get worse so she can find the prob. Is there another way?

Yes, many doctors choose this route. I don't like it. I also had negative bloodtests and my doctor was determined NOT to find celiac disease with the biopsy, so she only took 3 tissue samples and did not order the lab to look at them closer. At the cellular level they can see the Intraepithelial Lymphocytes and if these are elevated, then that means that there are changes occuring in the lining of the intestines that will eventually show more damage.

I decided I did not want to wait until I had enough damage to be seen by my doctor and I was terribly ill. I already had so many symptoms and my health was declining rapidly. So I chose to have tests run out of pocket through Enterolab. Open Original Shared Link

The tests are not yet mainstream, and many doctors won't accept the results, but I researched them and felt that the tests were valid, so I ordered them for myself. The results came back positive for antibodies to gluten and also the genes (one for celiac disease and one for gluten intolerance). I went gluten free and stayed that way.

I also had my kids tested. First by bloodtest, and they all came back positive for IgG antibodies only. Then I ordered the Enterolab tests when my insurance refused to pay for tests through Prometheus labs (a higher quality bloodtest for celiac disease). They all came back positive as well.

You have a few choices. (1) You could go to a different doctor, who might tell you the same thing or who might support you in thinking you have Celiac Disease. (2) You could order your own tests through Prometheus, Enterolab or another lab that might test for celiac disease/gluten intolerance. (3) You could put yourself on the diet, but understand that once you do any further testing will not be accurate because you are already gluten free.

With the high risk of cancer due to your family history, it would probably be a good idea to be gluten free. I recommend the book Dangerous Grains by James Braly and Ron Hoggan. It tells about all the health problems that can occur when we eat gluten grains.

God bless,

Mariann

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Hmart replied to Hmart's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Is this celiac?

    2. - trents replied to Hmart's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Is this celiac?

    3. - klmgarland replied to klmgarland's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      10

      Help I’m cross contaminating myself,

    4. - DebJ14 replied to Jhona's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      30

      Does anyone here also have Afib

    5. - Hmart posted a topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Is this celiac?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,924
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Mckshane
    Newest Member
    Mckshane
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Hmart
      I was not taking any medications previous to this. I was a healthy 49 yo with some mild stomach discomfort. I noticed the onset of tinnitus earlier this year and I had Covid at the end of June. My first ‘flare-up’ with these symptoms was in August and I was eating gluten like normal. I had another flare-up in September and then got an upper endo at the end of September that showed possible celiac. My blood test came a week later. While I didn’t stop eating gluten before I had the blood test, I had cut back on food and gluten both. I had a flare-up with this symptoms after one week of gluten free but wasn’t being crazy careful. Then I had another flare-up this week. I think it might have been caused by Trader Joe’s baked tofu which I didn’t realize had wheat. But I don’t know if these flare-ups are caused by gluten or if there’s something else going on. I am food journaling and tracking all symptoms. I have lost 7 pounds in the last 10 days. 
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Hmart! There are other medical conditions besides celiac disease that can cause villous atrophy as well as some medications and for some people, the dairy protein casein. So, your question is a valid one. Especially in view of the fact that your antibody testing was negative, though there are also some seronegative celiacs. So, do you get reactions every time you consume gluten? If you were to purposely consume a slice of bread would you be certain to develop the symptoms you describe?
    • klmgarland
    • DebJ14
      I only went on the multi vitamin AFTER a couple of year of high dose, targeted supplementation resolved most of my deficiencies.  I was on quite a cocktail of vitamins that was changed every 6 months as my deficiencies resolved.  Those that were determined to be genetic are still addressed with specific doses of those vitamins, minerals and amino acids. I have an update on my husband and his A Fib.  He ended up in the hospital in August 2025 when his A Fib would not convert.  He took the maximum dose of Flecainide allowed within a 24 hour period.  It was a nightmare experience!  They took him into the ER immediately.  They put in a line, drew blood, did an EKG and chest Xray all within minutes.  Never saw another human for 6 hours.  Never got any results, but obviously we could see he was still in A fib by watching the monitor.  They have the family sign up for text alerts at the ER desk.  So glad I did.  That is the only way we found out that he was being admitted.  About an hour after that text someone came to take him to his room on an observation floor.  We were there two hours before we saw another human being and believe it or not that was by zoom on the TV in the room.  It was admissions wanting to know his vaccine status and confirming his insurance, which we provided at the ER desk.  They said someone would be in and finally a nurse arrived.  He was told a hospitalist was in charge of his case.  Finally the NP for the hospitalist showed up and my husband literally blew his stack.  He got so angry and yelled at this poor woman, but it was exactly what he needed to convert himself to sinus rhythm while she was there.  They got an EKG machine and confirmed it.  She told him that they wanted to keep him overnight and would do an echo in the morning and they were concerned about a wound on his leg and wanted to do a doppler to make sure he did not have a DVT.  He agreed.  The echo showed everything fine, just as it was at his annual check up in June and there was no DVT.  A cardiologist finally showed up to discharge him and after reviewing his history said the A Fib was due to the Amoxicillan prescribed for his leg wound.  It both triggers A Fib and prevents the Flecainide from working.  His conversion coincided with the last dose of antibiotic getting out of his system.  So, make sure your PCP understands what antibiotics you can or cannot take if susceptible to A Fib.  This cardiologist (not his regular) wanted him on Metoprolol 25 mg and Pradaxa.  My husband told him that his cardiologist axed the idea of a beta blocker because his heart rate is already low.  Sure enough, it dropped to 42 on the Metoprolol and my husband felt horrible.  The pradaxa gave him a full body rash!  He went back to his cardiologist for follow up and his BP was fine and heart rate in the mid 50's.  He also axed the Pradaxa since my husband has low platelets, bruises easily and gets bloody noses just from Fish Oil  He suggested he take Black Cumin Seed Oil for inflammation.  He discovered that by taking the Black Seed oil, he can eat carbs and not go into A Fib, since it does such a good job of reducing inflammation.   Oh and I forgot to say the hospital bill was over $26,000.  Houston Methodist!  
    • Hmart
      The symptoms that led to my diagnosis were stomach pain, diarrhea, nausea, body/nerve tingling and burning and chills. It went away after about four days but led me to a gastro who did an upper endo and found I had marsh 3b. I did the blood test for celiac and it came back negative.  I have gone gluten free. In week 1 I had a flare-up that was similar to my original symptoms. I got more careful/serious. Now at the end of week 2 I had another flare-up. These symptoms seem to get more intense. My questions:  1. How do I know if I have celiac and not something else? 2. Are these symptoms what others experience from gluten?  When I have a flare-up it’s completely debilitating. Can’t sleep, can’t eat, can’t move. Body just shakes. I have lost 10 pounds since going gluten free in the last two weeks.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.