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Ethical (And Legal) Question On Enterolab

JaneWhoLovesRain

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I want to order the mouth swab test (Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test (Molecular HLA-DQB1 analysis)) from Enterolab to see if I have one of the celiac genes. However, my state is one of the two in the country that does not allow the paitent to directly purchase this test, it must be ordered through the doctor. Would it be ethically wrong for me to order this test and have it sent to a friend in a neighboring state and is it even legal for me to do it this backhanded way? Does anyone know if I have to click some kind of disclaimer stating where I live? Or will they know by my credit card info and then not send it to me or worse send it to me and then slap me with a heavy federal fine a month later? I'm the kind of person who goes by the book so the idea of doing something illegal kind of freaks me out a bit. Yet I want to know if I have the gene and don't want to go through the doctor at this time.

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How did you find out that you live in a state that requires the order be submitted through the doctor? A lot would depend on why it is illegal to do so in your state. Which would depend on your state's particular law. It may only be illegal to order it directly if you intend to use those results for submitting to insurance or something like that. But using the results for your own personal information may not be illegal to order.

I can't say for certain but I do not remember having to sign a disclaimer as to the state I live in when I ordered from Enterolab. I only remember having to sign a disclaimer as to who I am, my date of birth, weight and height (information I guess they use in interpreting test results).

I doubt seriously they pay attention to the amount of orders they receive that the shipping address and credit card billing address do not match. Also that is probably fairly common with their orders anyway as a family member may be paying for another family member's test so they would not match.

I doubt you would be slapped with a federal fine as although federal law would apply because of more than one state being involved and the mail, the feds have much bigger problems, if you were to get in trouble it would more likely be with your individual state but that is unlikely to as your state is probably not concerned with minor violations either.

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Sharilee - it says so on their web site

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Sharilee - it says so on their web site

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Sharilee - THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing all that reasearch. I really appreciate that you took the time for this. Based on what you found I will not be ordering the test and having it sent elsewhere. I don't want to be a partner in crime, the law is the law and I will go along with that. I'll go through my doctor and hopefully he will agree to it.

Thanks, Jane

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Sharilee - THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing all that reasearch. I really appreciate that you took the time for this. Based on what you found I will not be ordering the test and having it sent elsewhere. I don't want to be a partner in crime, the law is the law and I will go along with that. I'll go through my doctor and hopefully he will agree to it.

Thanks, Jane

Your welcome, glad I could help

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Would it be wrong for someone to order it for you and you pay them back? It doesn't allow THEIR residents to order it.

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