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Late Phase Allergic Reaction?


MrsSprinkles

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I was gluten free for two weeks then had a bunch of gluten filled foods a week ago but have not consumed it since and have had some symptoms that could be reaction or could be coincidence...I don't know.

Last night I developed some hives and itched all over, today I have had hives on and off all day...pretty significant in size too... Benadryl took most itching away and held off hives for a while but I am getting them again about 4hrs after last dose.

I have not changed a single thing in my diet or household items in the last week other than removing gluten...is it possible this could be a delayed reaction to eating the gluten a week ago?? Has anyone had anything like this? Is it more likely to be coincidence?

I went to the allergist and he wanted to skin test me but because I also took Benadryl last night the test could not be accurately read so he wants to retest after I har been off Benadryl for at least 5 days. He figured that would happen but was hopefull because I was actively producing hives in his office.

All answers are appreciated!


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shadowicewolf Proficient

You sure it isn't DH (there is a section on the forum for this)? It presents similar to an allergic reaction.

MrsSprinkles Rookie

I'm pretty certain it is hives...unless DH has a hives presentation but I always thought DH was more like blisters? The allergist also confirmed hives in his office.

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If you are eating a gluten free food item which is new to you, then you could be reacting to one of those ingredients. One normally does not react the first time, but the second or third. Hives can also be caused by something you've come in contact with, but not ingested.

"last night I developed some hives...." so go over in your mind what exactly did you eat for dinner, then did you bathe and change clothes, use new soap/lotion, pet a dog who's been outside, use some bugspray, do some yard work, etc.

MrsSprinkles Rookie

I have seriously changed nothing...though I have gone gluten free I have not introduced any new foods or ingredients. I am eating mostly fruits, veggies, rice, eggs, and meats...no new seasonings or anything.

We don't have any pets, I haven't changed any detergents, soaps, shampoos, lotions, deoderant...nothing!

Hence the reason I'm stumped...I may be looking into this a little too much but even though the allergy tests were non conclusive...the prick for the wheat lasted even longer on my skin than the prick for the control histamine...all others faded quickly. I guess I will get me answer for that next week...in the mean time I'm itchy!! The hives keep coming and going...it's a rather annoying sensation!

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I have seriously changed nothing...though I have gone gluten free I have not introduced any new foods or ingredients. I am eating mostly fruits, veggies, rice, eggs, and meats...no new seasonings or anything.

We don't have any pets, I haven't changed any detergents, soaps, shampoos, lotions, deoderant...nothing!

Hence the reason I'm stumped...I may be looking into this a little too much but even though the allergy tests were non conclusive...the prick for the wheat lasted even longer on my skin than the prick for the control histamine...all others faded quickly. I guess I will get me answer for that next week...in the mean time I'm itchy!! The hives keep coming and going...it's a rather annoying sensation!

Regardless, something you are doing is causing it.

I never thought i'd become allergic to tomatos as an example, used to love tomato sauce and bbq.

MrsSprinkles Rookie

Agreed...that's why I was questioning coincidence vs late phase reaction. I posted pics under the DH board if you want to check them out and give me uour opinion?


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Any new meds or skincare products?

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