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Confused: Is This Ncgs?


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Well hello everyone, I hope all is well. Let me start off by saying I'm not just confused but also very aggrivated by my situation. So I will you in. About 6 years ago I started having horrible stomach pain, numerous trips to the restroom, nausea(with occasional vomiting), and general lethargy. All of this appeared out of nowhere. The doc suggested biopsies, endoscopies and the lovely cup test. Well he found absolutely nothing and ruled it as IBS. Needless to say I was confused and angry that all this was happening. Well fast forward to roday, I have discovered through experimentation that I am lactose intolerant. I tried everything to stop symptoms of this nonsense. I tried medication, didst change and exercise(well you never know haha) but nothing is working. A coworkers suggested I go gluten free and see what happens. Well dive days in and I feel great. Most of my stomach pain is gone, I have made less trips to the bathroom and I'm not really nauseous. So could this be ncgs since I tested negative for celiac?


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Welcome!

I love your screenname - I often refer to certain periods of my life as Zombie Days.

When was the last time you were tested for celiac disease?

Were all the antibody tests run - many docs run only one or two of the complete panel.

Have you had nutrient blood tests? These can indicate the malabsorption found in celiac disease.

Lastly, when you had the endoscopy did the doc take multiple samples from the small intestine?

If you aren't sure of the answers to these questions - request written copies of all tests - including the pathology reports from endoscopies.

If you have been properly tested for Celiac Disease than removing all gluten for three months (six is better) is the next best step.

CAUTION - you need to be ingesting gluten for tests to have their best chance for accuracy - if you think you may need more testing - keep eating gluten - no need to overdo - a slice or two of gluten containing bread per day seems to be sufficient.

Good Luck to you :)

GFinDC Veteran

Hi,

Yes, it could be. They don't have any test protocol for NCGS at the moment. You are still pretty early in the gluten-free diet though. Did they do all the antibody tests, or just part of them? It is fairly common for them to only do a couple of the tests and leave others out.

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running like a zombie Newbie

I actually have had 2 different celiac tests. 1 for the original doc and then another by my new doc I got when I moved. The first one did multi biopsies and numerous others tests(sadly I can't remember which). The second doc did a celiac test and ultimately decided once again that it was still IBS. I was placed on lomotil(generic for lonox) and told to monitor my diet. I agree that it is very early in the gluten free but I feel considerably better. I have little stomach cramps and throbbing pain throught out the day. I also greatly appreciate the imput.

GFinDC Veteran

Hi RLAZombie,

It's no problem to go gluten-free without a formal diagnosis IMHO. If the tests don't find anything it is still possible to have a problem with gluten. As they say the proof is in the pudding, and if you get better on the gluten-free diet that is good enough proof you shouldn't eat it. I do suggest you write down your symptoms when eating gluten and keep a record of changes since going gluten-free. That might be good info for your doctor to hear. But it also is good info to keep on hand to remind yourself of how you felt before going gluten-free.

And getting your vitamin levels checked is a good idea also. That way you know if there some vitamins low that you need to pay attention to those ones. That's also a good test of success. If you do have low vitamin levels, and they normalize after 6 months to a year on the gluten-free diet, then you know something has changed for the better.

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