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Seborrheic Dermatitis


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If so, has anything helped. Has anyone tried casein free and had success?

I was diagnosed with celiac June 2006 and gut symptoms cleared up within two weeks. I was, however, experiencing non-situational depression that did not resolve gluten-free. Was told by a support group friend who was diagnosed at Mayo that she was told there that it usually takes at least 18 months gluten-free for celiac related depression to resolve (maybe leaky gut?, dunno).

I decided to try to speed up the depression process in January 2007 by eliminating casein as well in case leaky gut was slowing the depression progress (casein free didn't help my depression, btw. It took about 2 yrs totally clear). But I have seborrheic dermatitis that occurs yearly from late winter on into the July. Occurs on eyelids and is severe under arms. In 2007 while casein free, the seb derm didn't flare up at all.

Has anyone else experienced this? I'm flaring up now and about to go back casein free which I hate, hate, hate. Gluten-free is "a piece of cake :) " for me, but casein free is horrible due to my love for cheese and it's an additive for so many foods - even ones that don't list milk as an allergen at the end of ingredients.

If anyone else has tried and had success with seb derm and casein free?

Thanks much! -L

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I am just gluten intolerant. My Seb. Derm is nowhere near as severe as yours although one summer I had it behind my ears and I thought they might fall off!

I went gluten-free and my scalp improved, but now that I am CF too, I only have a tiny, tiny patch on the crown of my head. When I've tested dairy, I have noticed my skin gets worse. My main reaction to dairy seems to be skin issues, acne and excema. I have not noticed the patch getting any worse,

I've had a lot of benefit from being off dairy,(skin and menstrual cycle improvements) so it has been a worthwhile change for me. If you had asked me this a year ago, I would never have thought I would do it.

Hope this helps.

nikki-uk Enthusiast

I get this, all around my hairline <_< ....AND eczema and am about to go dairy free again to clear it 'cos it's raging out of control :angry:

Ok, ..I'm not a coeliac (hubby and son are)..but discovered my skin probs improved dramatically if I ate gluten-free........... but I noticed if I ate alot of dairy I could immediately feel 'the tingle/burn'.

I did a trial run of dairy free and ALL my skin probs disappeared..........but as you say gluten-free is a doddle but dairy <_< UGH!!!!!

I've got to get off these steroid creams (which aren't working!)

NicoleAJ Enthusiast

I get this pretty badly off and on--I sometimes scratch till I bleed without noticing (until I see the blood under my fingernails. I've never even associated it casein, but I also don't really care to go casein free with all of my other food intolerances. It's definitely the worst for me when I'm approacing ovulation, so there's definitely a hormonal component for me. Nothing I've done has really helped all that much, so I just live with it...begrudgingly.

C.S. Blogsmith Newbie

On this website, I read someone recommend "oil pulling" for dermatitis/skin problems. I took the advice for myself and have been doing it ever since. It has been working really well for me. Just google "oil pull" for complete instructions. Essentially, it is just using oil as a mouthwash (only for 15-20 minutes instead of 5). There are a lot of theories behind it, but basically what it does is clean out the bacteria and toxins that accumulate in the mouth (toxins exit the body through glands in the mouth). For some reason eliminating this extra toxic burden from the body clears up skin rashes. I have been using extra virgin olive oil, but I have heard cold-pressed sesame and sunflower oil are the best.

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