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Well thanks everyone... guess I'll give it a try. Gotta be careful these days, so many people trying to get rich with bogus "anything that sells"... especially these book clubs, they will literally sell anything......... thanks again!

GC

Just saw this in the book club we belong to... looks like a possible buy........ has anyone read it, and do you think it's worth buying/the money?

Thanks, GC

We took leftovers and made a brand new favorite food... 1.5 cups cooked mashed potatoes, 1.5 cups cooked grits, 1 cup brown rice flour, 1 small -grated- onion, 2 eggs, salt/pepper... mix, shape into patties, and pan fry on both sides 'til golden brown. Yum yuuummmmm, good! Goes great with applesauce, eggs, sausage, and/or whatever you like for breakfast.

GC

They're getting ready to chip away at our liberty a bit more; food labels:

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It's been normal for me... the worst was noted during a doctor visit when I was a kid; 80/40--at which point my poor mom almost fainted when told this was low, but not unexpected in children with asthma. I now know it had far less to do with asthma, and much more to do with Celiac. Never understood why I was so skinny, 'cause I ate fairly good as I got older... and I missed my teenage "growing phase", being as big at 10 yrs old as I am now. The Celiac really robs your body of the nutrition to function and grow as 'normal' people do..... About a year ago, during having a tooth pulled, my blood presure was actually on the high side... likely from storing too much glucose/fat, but it's now returning to normal after being gluten-free 6 months.

BTW... being dizzy/light headed was normal as a skinny kid, and as an over-weight adult.

GC

Cindy... the label tells the name of the artificial sweetener--it's been yrs, and I can't remember the name of the junk they use now. Look at the label and do a Google search... that'll scare you away from diet! She died from cancer, a tumor, or smething... the better-half can't remember, and she's the one who told me about it. She was only about 25 yrs old, but drank around 3-4 cans a day.

I'm a hillbilly from rural North Carolina, so we always just called it cola, soft drinks, or the name brand--it's the better-half that calls it 'pop'... she's from N.Y., and they say "pop". Rubbed off on me; it sounds odd, so I naturally like the term!

BTW, this is how I've come to look at it; if one consumes calories from potatoes, carrots, squash, and/or a number of other foods, then reducing that can allow for a little "sugar" from something you drink... it's [mostly] the same to the body.

GC

I have been gluten free for about 9 months. Just the past couple of weeks I have noticed my heart beating faster than usual at times. I am addicted to Diet Coke - I figure there are a lot worse things that I could be addicted to. At least it is not on the "Can Not Have" list. I have self diagnososed myself as drinking too much caffeine. I feel that by being Diabetic and having Celiac, I am entitled to have one bad habit. If It keeps up, I guess I will try to cut down on the caffeine (I now drink 5-6 cans a day). If that doesn't help, I guess I will have to contact the doctor.

Cindy

Cindy, yrs ago I did the 'diet pop thing' trying to loose weight, and it almost killed me [literally]. I didn't understand at the time, because of always feeling crappy, but it was the diet drinks. It got to a point where my face hurt like I'd stuck it in a microwave over or something similar....... I'd been on political discussion/news groups for yrs, and we told each other (other) important news we heard of, that wasn't in the mainstream media, medical system, etc. Right at the time of this problem, someone posted about diet foods, and how harmful they are. I'd already stopped drinking pop, but wasn't sure why it bothered me so much... those chemicals in diet stuff damages the body on a cellular level, and causes far more deaths than the media/doctors/etc even hint of. After all this, we learned of a young woman just down the road that had died, and they found out it was from diet pop!....... We never touch it anymore, we just make flavored drinks with very little sugar... you get used to it within a few months.

GC

Hopefully you won't have an extreme appetite for 4 months as I did, but relax it's likely just your body (attempting to) repairing damage from partial 'nutritional starvation'... though it would be a good idea to eat [during this time] the highest quality food you can--that's acceptable to your individual system. A recently gluten-free Celiac will likely repair bones, muscle, organs, even hair, gums, teeth, nails, etc....... The hardest part is trying to avoid candy, ice cream, and all the more enjoyable cravings... sure was for me.

GC

I notice you said you eat little meat, eggs, etc... maybe you're eating too much carbs, starch, etc, and you may be getting to much fiber. I had bloating all the time, but felt much better when cutting back on those foods... and I'm talking about the time before learning of Celiac. Part of the time, I had D, then followed by Constipation, then back to "hot 'n' mushy" or D. Most think fiber makes you always go, which is partly right; but this can often be followed by constipation, stomachaches, gas, bloating, etc.

You might also consider "food combining", smaller meals, drinking little or nothing with food, not mixing/eating raw fruit [or fruit juice] with other foods, checking out the 'blood type diet/food lists', etc.

Good luck, GC

Breakfast: eggs, Jimmy Dean Sausage/Oscar Meyer Bacon. OR leftovers from dinner or Amys Indian (Yum)

Lunch: Leftovers, Rice Cake w/PB&J, cottage cheese with pineapple, Peanuts & V-8, trail mix with raisans, peanuts & MM's

Dinner: Baked Chicken w/salt& pepper, roasted carrotts and potatoes, Gravey with cornstarch.

Taco's

Smoked Salmon on the grill, w/ brown rice, asparagy

Steak & B. Potato w/salad

Beef Stew w/Lipton Onion Dry Soup Mix - carrots & pot.

Spiced Shrimp w/Old Bay Seasoning - corn on cob.

Hamburgers w/ bushes baked beans (doctored up)

Chicken Salad - Potato Salad

Merinaded Pea salad (very good) ask and I'll pass it on.

Merinaded Flank Steak - diddo

Ribs of Grill - McKormicks dry rub - Roasted veggies.

See, gluten free need not hinder our taste buds. Enjoy

I thought that kind of food looked familiar... I'm from W.N.C.--and you forgot the grits with breakfast!

:-)

Now to the food list:

Eggs, omlets, (fresh market ground/lower fat) sausage, grits, fried potatoes or potato cakes, applesauce... at times; [fresh/raw] fruit, fruit 'n' yogart, and a few times a year; {gluten-free} cornflakes.

Other meals; Green beans, green peas, black-eyed peas, field peas, yellow-eyed beans (cooked with ham), cranberry/october beans, baked beans, split-peas, red peanut beans, greasy cut-shorts, broccoli, collards, spinach, kale, romaine, leaf lettuce, zuchinni, butternut, acorn squash, sweet potatoes, chicken breasts (baked, grilled, smoked, marinaded/grilled), smoked whole chicken/turkey, smoked trout, fried chopped/cube steak (coated with rice flour--cooked in 48% soybean oil [margarine] spread), stew with beef or smoked chicken, also; burgers wrapped in head/leaf/romaine lettuce, seared/boiled beef roast, etc. Rice 'n' gravy (cornstarch thickened), johnny-cakes (100% cornmeal--no "Mix")..... for snacks; celery topped with [lowfat] peanut butter, nuts, seeds, {gluten-free} mini candy bites/bars, etc.

What a sobering thread... guess us men don't think about these things like we should. One can only imagine the number of people who have poorer health because a (or both) parent is Celiac...

Sorry to hear of you women having this happen to you... it really is more important to spread the word [about Celiac] than we might sometimes think!

GC

I agree, many of our health issues are caused by 'value added' "food", that the food industry conditions us to except as "healthy 'n' nutritious". And of course, doctors and the like also push this on us......... We cook most all our food, eat local eggs, buy [seasonal] veggies from local growers, even had our own garden 'til I got to sickly to make one. Everyone would benefit from eating as much 'real food' as possible... the food/drug/medical system depends on us doing the contrary.

GC

Yes, it's GREAT! Years before learning of being a Celiac, I started doing 'food combining', the 'Blood Type Diet', 'mini-meals', 'fruit on an empty stomach and alone', etc. All these things are likely the reason I'm still kickin'! Food combining isn't as critical now (being gluten-free), but it still helps, and I'll never remove it from my eating habits. It didn't seem to be an issue when my body was in "hyper-regeneration mode" (first 4 months), but now at 6 months, I notice I'm back to having more sensitivities (but less than before).

BTW, I first learned of this from 'Fit For Life' by Harvey Diamond. I had a book he mentions, but can't remember the name. I sent it to my sister, and she lost it.

GC

Yes, your body DOES need that extra food... Celiac is equivalent to some degree of starvation, and don't forget the damage to bone, muscle, organs, etc. It takes alot of nutrients from quality foods to enable regeneration, and it can start within days of going gluten-free. I was/felt like a ravenous beast after roughly 7-10 days; eating chicken breasts, collards, nuts/seeds, black-eyed peas, broccoli 'n' cheese, beans, even potatoes, etc, etc, as if I were eating for two. And it didn't let-up until 4 months later.

JMHO, GC

This winter has been better, but the 2 before this one were rough... after being outside, I'd come in so cold my legs were shaking. Not to mention my hands being almost stiff... now, my hands still get colder than 'normal', but the body is fine if I wear proper clothing. Exercise also helps during winter, something I wasn't able to do until recently... but it does seem to help alot.

GC

Celiac does indeed cause degeneration and cancer of all the body, especially the digestive/elimination organs. My father died several years ago, and the 'doctors' and my family all said or believe it was from lung cancer "spreading" to his intestines... thing is; his lung cancer was caught early, removed/treated, and had been inactive for years (and he no longer smoked). I didn't know of Celiac then, nor did he... he also had stomach problems, etc, from early life, and was mostly Irish--the people who suffer among the most from Celiac.

From my chilhood; there was stomach problems, abdominal pain, gas, foul stool, pain in my testicals, back pain, rectal pain, etc... progressing to a point several years ago, that pulling up underwear/pants caused considerable pain in my testicals. That's gone now, gluten-free for just 6 months... and the rest is 85-90% gone as well (and I'm almost 50).

GC

OK, I'll bite, and be as discreet as possible. I don't know about being common, but it happened to me as well. I'm 48, and have been burdened for years in this way, along with all the other health conditions. After going gluten-free, I didn't expect much... afterall Celiac had been affecting my health since childhood and I'd foolishly associated these problems with other conditions (this _is_ very common!) But, after about 3 months (and to my surprise), all is well in that regard... the only problem now belongs to the better half.

:-)

GC

Don't sweat it, your body is likely in 'regeneration mode'... rebuilding damage from gluten posioning; bones, muscle, skin, organs, etc. My hunger increased dramatically at first, and continued for 4 months... I regrew hair, my skin improved, muscles firmed up, shoulders broadened, gum disease healed, etc, etc. To be honest, I ate everything in sight... mostly quality foods, but some not so good; ice cream, candy bars, potatoes, grits, sausage, and other low nutient foods. But most was quality items like chicken breasts, [local] eggs, fish, nuts, seeds, BE Peas, collards, etc, etc.

For some reason, now I can't get enough raspberry sorbet... mixed with lowfat chocolate ice cream/milk, it's better than heaven!

GC

Yes, I know what that's like... been gluten-free for 6 months now, and my 'glucose cravings' are just starting to normalize. I figure what happened was; with my body being less able to absorb nutrients, it was storing [excess] glucose and 'feeding' more heavily from that than is 'normal'. So, after going gluten-free, it took some time for my system to adjust--epecially considering my increased food intake for the first 4 months (which allowed somewhat higher levels of glucose to remain in my system). After the 4th month, my appetite decreased, as did my glucose intake--and I'm finally starting to have less sugar cravings. It seems the body adapts to whatever condition exists, then re-adjusts after changes. Just another possibility...

GC

For the first 2 months it was awful, especilly when idiot me decided to 'celebrate' 6 weeks in. I had my favorite marinated chicken sandwich, followed by 3 donuts over the next 6 hours. The bone pain hit before bedtime, and was something hard to forget... as was the headache, though not nearly as bad.

I now (5 months in) can treat myself without noticing it too much, but I keep it to no more than once or twice a month... just too dangerous/damaging.

GC

We haven't tested her, but fairly sure my 'better-half' isn't Celiac... but seeing my turnabout, she decided to go gluten/wheat free as well. She started about 1 month behind me, so it's been 4 months. She just turned 50, but she [now] looks 10 years younger from kicking the bread... which is not particularly good for many/most people, IMHO. Especially that made from the current hybrids, processed to death, and made into a near worthless food by the time it reaches "end product".

Where it also makes/made a big difference is; she has Type O blood, which Dr. D'Adamo says do very poorly eating wheat products. Unfortunately, he didn't mention Celiac in his "Eat Right 4 Your Type" book, or I'd known about this disease years ago. But then again, if I hadn't been eating less bread 'cause of his book, I might not be here at all!

:-)

GC

I forgot to add this from some info a fantastic young lady at the health department sent me:

*Be wary of imported foods labeled 'gluten-free', because they may contain wheat starch. *Initially a low fiber intake may be necessary due to a flattening of the intestinal villi. *Protein: adequate intake is essential... and attention should be paid to B-vitamin rich foods. *These include legumes, nuts, seeds, green veggies, dairy, meat, fish, and poultry.

But, for some; dairy, red meat, and certain nuts/seeds can cause constipation... I ate more eggs, blackeyed-peas, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, chicken, collards, etc, to balance nutritional needs.

GC

People being different, some things work good while others can be a real problem... years ago, I tried the bran, flaxseed, fish oil, etc, and I thought I might die from the "cure".

:-)

For some, Juniper berries work well, the cooked juice of collards (not too much), apple/berry/beet juice... but avoid raw fruit with other foods, as well as starchy grains, potatoes, rice, meat, cheese, dairy, etc, when constipated. Also helpful; massage, walking/lite jogging in place, warm/hot baths, warm water enema with raspberry tea, eat small meals, don't drink with food, don't eat late, etc. Also very important is the effects of 'food combining', and the 'blood type' diet... as well as eating an [individual] appropriate 'acid/alkaline' balance in one's diet. Too much fiber can upset the balance, as can coffee, alcohol, etc.

GC

Hello, welcome, and glad you found the site. Glucose was a huge problem for me until going gluten-free, reaching 50-60 lbs overweight by the age of 48. My guess is; since the body doesn't absorb the proper nutrients, it utilizes (and for some; stores) much more glucose than 'normal'. This was certainly my problem; couldn't loose weight, had/have diabetes, eyes degenerating, etc, etc. But it's doing much better after 5 months gluten-free... some quicker, some slower, but basically everything doing better. After the first week gluten-free, my appetite went through the roof... and continued for almost 4 months. I ate 35%-40% more food (including lots of glucose rich ones, mostly lower GI choices), but lost nearly 40lbs of body fat.

We just had blackeyed-peas, collards, a sweet potato, applesauce, and johnny-cakes for supper... if I'd ate that before going gluten-free, I'd be sick. Instead, I have energy and strength I only dreamed of before. So for me, glucose isn't the root problem, wheat gluten is. Most Celiacs know this, I just like to go "on 'n' on", in case someone else happens across these posts, and finds them interesting. I sure enjoy reading other's personal stories, 10 times better than going to the doctor, reading "medical reports", etc, etc.

GC

Love this thread... Good to see more people finding relief from wheat. I've been gluten-free only 5 months, so some of these issues are still with me, or many have just become non-problematic. The itching (especially scalp), burning eyes/nose, smell, even my hearing was to a point that I called myself an "old fart". I [really] don't miss the knee problem at all... having the joint slide out, and having to stop, put my foot up on something, and bend my leg until the knee popped back into place. Haven't have that thanks to gluten-free, even using a 'stair-stepper' as exercise... granted, the knees got/still get sore if I overdo, but nothing like before. Looking forward to doing squats and lunges, but that's "down the road".

Good luck, and glad you're feeling better.

GC