Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Biopsy negative?


LSB

Recommended Posts

LSB Newbie

After battling symptoms such as bloating, excessive gas, belching, burbing, multiple bathroom trips, etc. I finally read online that celiac disease is hereditary. My sister was diagnosed years ago but never told me that I should be tested too. 

After more negative ultrasounds  to try and find out the problem, I asked if it could be possible I had celiac. My PCP promptly ordered bloodwork which came back as follows:

Deamidated Glidea Abs, IgA  20 units

t-Transglutaminase (tTG)   < 2 U/mL

Immunoglobulin A, QN Serum 242 mg/ul

My biopsy came back negative, but I had stopped eating gluten 5 days prior to the tests. 

I also tested positive for h pylori which I feel overshadowed the celiac biopsy? 

Now, I have to take antibiotics and have a repeat endoscopy in 3 months... 

Now what? Do I go back to eating gluten, do I request retesting? 

Here are lab ranges:

Qn, Serum
242NORMAL
 
 
Ref Range:87-352 mg/dL
Deamidated Gliadin Abs, IgA
20HIGH
 
 
Ref Range:0-19 units

Negative 0 - 19 Weak Positive 20 - 30 Moderate to Strong Positive >30

t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA

<2

Ref Range:0-3 

Negative 0 - 3 Weak Positive 4 - 10 Positive >10 . Tissue Transglutaminase (tTG) has been identified as the endomysial antigen. Studies have demonstr- ated that endomysial IgA antibodies have over 99

GI report in part reads: Scattered mild inflammation characterized by congestion, erythema, and mild scallop in in few mucosa folds of the 2nd portion of the duodenum. A shallow ulcer was found in duodenal bulb. Biopsies for histology were taken for evaluation of celiac disease.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



squirmingitch Veteran

You have not included any ranges for the serum tests. Each lab is different so ranges need to be posted so we can tell if they were positive or negative. Were you gluten free for 5 days prior to the serum panel?

On the endoscopy, how many biopsies were taken & from what areas?. 

cyclinglady Grand Master

I agree!  Many of the pieces of the puzzle are missing.  

1.  You can have both H.Pylori and celiac disease.  We are talking stomach vs.  small intestine.  

2.  Where were the biopsies taken?  How many?  Get the pathologist’s report and the endoscopy report.  It is your RIGHT!  

3.  Ugh!  I hope your doctor did not advise you to go gluten free before all testing was complete.  Five days should not have mattered....but it is possible.  The small intestine is the size of a tennis court and celiac can be patchy.  I had patches of moderate to severe damage.  

4.  First-degree relatives should be screened every few years, unless you get a genetic test showing that you were lucky and did not inherit the celiac genes.  

I hope this helps!  

LSB Newbie

I added the lab ranges. Preliminary dx on gi report was gastritis and duodentis 

cyclinglady Grand Master

Thanks for posting the additional information.  

I think you have to wait for the pathologist’s report because 1) I am not a doctor and 2) I could be just a crazy cyclist stalking the internet!   ?Celiac disease damage can be microscopic.  Some GI’s have access to really good scopes and can visually see damage while others (like my old GI) have an older scopes).  Your GI noted inflammation and scalloping which can be celiac disease.  My visual was fine.  No inflammation even noted, but my biopsies revealed a Marsh Stage IIIB.  

Like you, I only had a positive on the DGP IgA.  Even in follow-up testing, I have never had a positive on the EMA or TTG.  My anemia resolved within a few months on the gluten free diet and that really confirmed my diagnosis.  

Now you just need to wait and be patient.  So hard, I know!  In the meantime, take those antibiotics and beat back that H. pylori and let that ulcer heal!  

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,340
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Rachel Hill
    Newest Member
    Rachel Hill
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      My reaction to a gluten bolus exposure is similar to yours, with 2-3 hours of severe abdominal cramps and intractable emesis followed by several hours of diarrhea. I don't necessarily equate that one large exposure to gluten with significant intestinal lining damage, however. I think it's just a violent reaction to a what the body perceives to be a somewhat toxic substance that I am no longer tolerant of because I have quit exposing myself to it regularly. It's just the body purging itself of it rather than an expression of significant damage. Before diagnosis, when I was consuming gluten daily, I had little to no GI distress. I was, for the most part, a "silent celiac". The damage to my small bowel lining didn't happen all at once but was slow and insidious, accumulating over a period of years. The last time I got a big shot of gluten was about three years ago when I got my wife's wheat biscuits mixed up with my gluten-free ones. There was this acute reaction after about two hours of ingestion as I described above. I felt washed out for a few days and fully recovered within a week or so.  Now, I'm a 74-year-old male. So, I'm not worried about being pregnant. And I don't want to contradict your physicians advice. But I just don't think you have done significant damage to your small bowel lining by one episode of significant gluten ingestion. I just don't think it works that way.
    • Skydawg
      Wondering about some thoughts on how long to wait to try to get pregnant after a gluten exposure?  I have been diagnosed for 10 years and have followed the diet strictly. I have been cross contaminated before, but have never had a full on gluten exposure. I went to a restaurant recently, and the waiter messed up and gave me regular bread and told me it was gluten free. 2 hours later I was throwing up for the whole evening. I have never had that kind of reaction before as I have never had such a big exposure. My husband and I were planning to start trying to get pregnant this month. My dr did blood work to check for electrolytes and white blood cells, but did not do a full nutritional panel. Most of my GI symptoms have resolved in the past 2 weeks, but I am definitely still dealing with brain fog, fatigue and headaches. My dr has recommended I wait 3 months before I start to try to get pregnant.   I have read else where about how long it can take for the intestine to fully heal, and the impacts gluten exposure can have on pregnancy. I guess I am really wondering if anyone has had a similar experience? How long does it take to heal after 1 exposure like that, after following the diet so well for 10 years? Is 3 months an okay amount of time to wait? Is there anything I can do in the meantime to reduce my symptoms? 
    • ShadowLoom
      I’ve used tinctures and made my own edibles with gluten-free ingredients to stay safe. Dispensary staff don’t always know about gluten, so I double-check labels or just make my own.
    • Scott Adams
      It's great to hear that there are some good doctors out there, and this is an example of why having a formal diagnosis can definitely be helpful.
    • RMJ
      Update: I have a wonderful new gastroenterologist. She wants to be sure there’s nothing more serious, like refractory celiac, going on. She ordered various tests including some micronutrient tests that no one has ever ordered before.  I’m deficient in folate and zinc and starting supplements for both. I’m so glad I decided to go to a new GI!
×
×
  • Create New...