Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Gluten Paranoia? Please help.


CharlesBronson

Recommended Posts

CharlesBronson Enthusiast

Hello everyone

I didn't NOT expect the switch to a gluten free diet to be this hellish. I felt better before my diagnosis eating gluten all the time. I'm 3 months into the diet/healing, but I'm getting more and more sensitive to foods, not less... I'm losing a lot of weight and am largely bed bound. I'm trying to get back into the GI doc, but I'm in a small city and the waiting list is massive even though I'm a patient. 

Cross contamination has me anxious 24/7 because getting glutened after 3 months on a gluten-free diet is ten times worse than it was when I was eating gluten every day. I get that I'm healing, but my gut's level of sensitivity is unbearable. 

How careful do I have to be to avoid cross contamination? Can my girlfriend bring gluten in the apartment? She was eating pre-packaged granola bars last week and somehow I got glutened. She's largely gluten free since my celiac diagnosis, but we figured it was ok for her to bring in the occasional snack. What are the odds of getting a crumb from a damn granola bar?! If she eats out with friends, what do I do? Avoid her? What do I do in a relationship where the other person isn't celiac? It feels hopeless. 

We have friends over all the time too. What if they have gluten crumbs on them? Like, how paranoid do I have to be? Do I have to clean the door handles and anything they've touched after they leave?

 

Sorry for the despair but I'm at my wits end with this disease. Thanks for listening. 

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CharlesBronson Enthusiast

Also... what would the safest type of painkiller for my stomach be? I know I can't take NSAIDs. Maybe like a Tylenol liquid so the pill doesn't upset my stomach?

 

Thanks 

cyclinglady Grand Master
(edited)

I am sorry you are unwell.  It is true that your reaction to gluten can get worse after diagnosis.  Here is a list of OTC pain medication:

https://www.verywellfit.com/gluten-free-pain-relievers-562382

Any medication has risks and benefits.  But acetaminophen seems to be easier on the stomach (not necessarily the liver) when you follow the directions (e.g. no alcohol or dosage).  

A granola bar?  Maybe.  Did she wash her hands after consuming it?  Did she brush her teeth?  That could definitely gluten you!  

I had a shared household for years.  But we found it was just easier to have a gluten-free household.  Harder in that I typically have to cook food for everyone at parties or I set up a separate table (outside) for BBQs and toss or give away all leftovers, even the gluten-free due to possible cross contamination. 

Good practices like washing hands, brushing  teeth, or cleaning with a separate sponge if you handwash dishes can help prevent cross contamination. 

Hey.  You are sick.  Anxiety is common when you are exposed to gluten.  Put in some strict rules to keep you safe until you see results.  Your home is your kingdom!  You deserve to have a safe place at least for a while!   We had a member who was getting glutened by her slobbery adorable toddlers.   Once she had her kids tested, the entire house went gluten free and she healed.  

Final advice....do not eat out until you are well and keep that GI appointment.   Ask for these tests (bring this in to the office):

http://www.cureceliacdisease.org/faq/how-often-should-follow-up-testing-occur/

It does get better.  You just need more time.  

Edited by cyclinglady
Ennis-TX Grand Master

Yeah, I had to go totally gluten-free house after diagnosis. The sensitivity was insane, and I kept getting other food intolerances and sensitivities when this was happening and it confused the frack out of me. Like all of a sudden, I was in pain and vomiting from soy, peanuts, peas, olives, sesame, etc. Keep a food diary also, this way you can learn if you get any other problem foods.  and stick to whole foods, few ingredients as possible. Simple stews, soups, look up sheet pan meals, egg dishes, etc. Foil, parchment paper, and crockpot liners are life savers. I fell in love with Nordicware microwave cookware, simple, cheap, tossable if you mess up, and the lovely splatter clovers have ended cleaning the microwave constantly.

I started waking up at 3am so I could clean and cook before anyone else, and adjusted all my meal times accordingly but still got sick often. I still have a PTSD like trauma of waking up at 3-4am to eat and eat an hour before normal lol. 
But yeah gluten flour, can be airborne for over 24 hours if used in a kitchen and it settles likes dust on everything....we can inhale it and that tiny bit washes down with our mucus into our stomachs. Gluten residue on sink handles, fridge doors, cabinet knobs. If you touch it while fixing your food then touch your food glutened. Also if your gluten-free eats gluten, she can have active proteins in her mouth for a while so kissing can make you sick. It might be best for her to adopt the diet fully, heck might be fun cooking from scratch together all the time.  Not to be paranoid but these are reasons I said went whole house free of.

Do double check the Newbie 101 section. I also do list quarterly of some gluten-free options. 
https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/91878-newbie-info-101/
https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/123298-gluten-free-food-alternative-list-2019-q1/

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to glucel's topic in Super Sensitive People
      17

      iron digestibility

    2. - glucel replied to glucel's topic in Super Sensitive People
      17

      iron digestibility

    3. - Scott Adams commented on Scott Adams's article in Latest Research
      3

      New Research Reveals How Antibody Genes May Shape the Immune Response in Celiac Disease

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Bogger's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      6

      Osteoporosis: Does the body start rebuilding bones after starting a gluten-free diet?

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,003
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    michelinagiggles
    Newest Member
    michelinagiggles
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @glucel,  There's a strong correlation between thiamine deficiency, hypoxia, and insomnia.  Thiamine is needed to help red blood cells carry oxygen.  In thiamine deficiency, hypoxia (lack of oxygen in tissues) occurs, and this can result in insomnia. Hypoxia causes systemic inflammation, increases inflammatory markers, and is associated with cardiovascular events.  Curiously, thiamine deficiency is correlated with excessive daytime sleepiness and oversleeping.   I found a combination of Tryptophan, Pyridoxine B 6, magnesium, and L-theanine works very well for inducing sleep.  Sometimes, I add Passion Flower Extract and/or Sweet Melissa.  There's no side effects the next morning with Passion Flower, it just induces sleepiness.  Sweet Melissa is groovy, and has anti-inflammatory effects on the digestive system.   I prefer to take 250 mg Benfotiamine and 100 mg Thiamine TTFD in the mornings and another dose of Benfotiamine at lunch.  I try not to take any thiamine after four p.m. because it keeps my brain so energized and wanting to think... Oh, I do take a combination of another form of thiamine (sulbutiamine), Pyridoxine and Cobalamine for a pain reliever sometimes, but I can sleep after taking that.  But thiamine does help regulate circadian rhythm.   Make sure you're getting Omega Three fats! They'll help you satisfy that late night carb craving with fewer carbs.  Flaxseed oil, olive oil, sunflower seed oil.  Nuts and nut butters, like walnuts and cashews, are good, too, if you can tolerate them.    Try taking the 100mg thiamine HCl before your aerobics and see if there's a difference.  Sweet dreams! References: Network Pharmacology Analysis of the Potential Pharmacological Mechanism of a Sleep Cocktail. ......(Skip to Section Four) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11201840/ Effects of Melissa officinalis Phytosome on Sleep Quality: Results of a Prospective, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, and Cross-Over Study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39683592/
    • glucel
      Thanks to everybody for your help. I reread the dr's notes from the biopsy procedure and it seems I had worse than atrofied villi. It was termed flattened mucosa. So while iron ferratin levels are normal my bet is, as kitty alluded to, iron not getting into cells. I have dr appointment next mo but don't hold out a lot of hope, There is strong correlation of low red blood cells and insomnia so at least I finally solved that one after few yrs of being mislead. I intend to take stop taking 100 mg b1 at noon time and start 150 mg benfotiamin. I may or may not add the the 100 mg b1evening meal. BTW, last night had 1/3 lb beef. potato then 2 bowls cereal and an apple later in the eve. I generally do my areobics before supper so maybe that contributes to the hunger.  
    • knitty kitty
      I have osteoporosis and have crushed three vertebrae.  I supplement with Lysine, Tryptophan, threonine, calcium, Boron, Vitamins D, A, and K, and the B vitamins (folate, B12, and Thiamine B1 especially for bone health).   I tried Fosomax, but it tore up my insides.  I prefer the supplements.  I feel better and my bones feel stronger.   References: A composite protein enriched with threonine, lysine, and tryptophan improves osteoporosis by modulating the composition and metabolism of the gut microbiota https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41915427/
    • knitty kitty
      @Aileen Cregan, I was put on high blood pressure medication, too. But I was able to correct my high blood pressure by supplementing with Thiamine Vitamin B 1.  I am no longer on high blood pressure medication.  I feel much better without the medication. I continue to supplement Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine.   The particular high blood pressure medication I took was Norvasc (amlodipine), which causes thiamine deficiency by blocking thiamine transporters so that thiamine cannot enter cells.  Benfotiamine can get into cells by merging with the cell membrane, thus bypassing nonfunctional thiamine transporters.   Indapamide also blocks thiamine transporters! The use of this type of medications that block thiamine precipitated Wernickes Encephalopathy.  My doctors did not recognize the connection to Thiamine deficiency.  I nearly died.   Talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing with Benfotiamine, a fat soluble form of thiamine that bypasses thiamine transporters.  Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity Assay to check your thiamine levels asap.  Routine blood tests for thiamine are not an accurate measure of  thiamine in the body.   Absorption of essential vitamins like Thiamine is altered in Celiac Disease due to damaged villi, inflammation and dysbiosis.  The Gluten Free diet can be lacking in vitamins and minerals.  Discuss supplementing with all the eight B vitamins,  the four fat soluble vitamins and necessary minerals. Please keep us posted on your progress! References: Drug-nutrient interactions: discovering prescription drug inhibitors of the thiamine transporter ThTR-2 (SLC19A3) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31764942/ The Pivotal Role of Thiamine Supplementation in Counteracting Cardiometabolic Dysfunctions Associated with Thiamine Deficiency https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11988323/
    • knitty kitty
      Hi, @Sue7171, I thought you might be interested in this article about Lyme disease and the discussion after the article.   I found this article enlightening.  The finding that not only can alpha gal be problematic, but advantageous infection with Staph aureus can be problematic.   The Acari Hypothesis, VII: accounting for the comorbidity of allergy with other contemporary medical conditions, especially metabolic syndrome https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11983536/  
×
×
  • Create New...