Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Reaction with Absolute Organic Baked Beans - please be careful


GlutenFreedom3141

Recommended Posts

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie

I'm referring to this product: https://www.absoluteorganic.com.au/product/baked-beans/

It's an Australian company, with canned baked beans labelled "Gluten-free" on first glance.

I've had bad reactions (my typical gluten exposure symptoms) to this on two separate occasions. The first time was years ago. I decided to give them another chance, but had the same reaction. As I ordered in quantity (to save on shipping), I have three unopened tins which I'm trying to return. I am resolved never to take another bite of this product again. 

On a closer look (you pretty much have to have the tin in your hand to be able to read the small font - so it is difficult to see it when ordering online), the actual label is "Naturally Gluten-free". I think this is a bit of a weasel clause that companies use to cover themselves when they don't actually do any line testing of their products to assure they're free of gluten to so many parts per million etc. In this case, I'm pretty sure some cross contamination must have occurred somewhere along the line. Whatever the case may be, if you're very sensitive like me, please give this a miss. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Scott Adams Grand Master

I believe that the laws in Australia are even stricter than the USA for using the claim "gluten-free" on product labels, but is it possible that their beans are causing you gastric issues, as they can with many people, celiac or not?

Also, it might be good to call the company directly to ask them about whether or not their products could be contaminated. 

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie
5 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

I believe that the laws in Australia are even stricter than the USA for using the claim "gluten-free" on product labels, but is it possible that their beans are causing you gastric issues, as they can with many people, celiac or not?

Also, it might be good to call the company directly to ask them about whether or not their products could be contaminated. 

Thanks for the reply. I have no issues with Waitrose baked beans, for example, so I don't think it's the beans per se.

I'm not sure if writing to the company will change anything, or even if they'll acknowledge an issue openly. At best they may just indicate the implication of "Naturally Gluten-Free" rather than "Gluten-free".

Just wanted to save someone else grief. But thanks so much for your kind advice. 

Scott Adams Grand Master

No worries, and it is possible there is a manufacturing issue with that brand, but be sure also to check for other ingredients, for example soy, to see if your reaction might be due to an additional intolerance that you may have.

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie
6 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

No worries, and it is possible there is a manufacturing issue with that brand, but be sure also to check for other ingredients, for example soy, to see if your reaction might be due to an additional intolerance that you may have.

Thank you. With regard to soy, I take actual soy bean curd in large quantities without issues, so it's not that. Anyway, I know this isn't the brand for me.

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie

Thanks @Scott Adams, I followed your advice and wrote to the company. Here's how it went:

On 2022-03-14 17:07, --- wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
I suffer from severe gluten sensitivity. On two separate occasions, I've tried your baked beans marked "Naturally Gluten Free". Unfortunately, I've had severe and typical reactions both times. 
 
May I clarify if you actually do line testing of your finished product to certify the level of gluten to (say) below 20ppm (parts per million) using a validated testing method? I'm concerned that simply using "gluten free" ingredients might not guarantee the absence of cross contamination during production.
 
I would be most grateful for a clarification.
 
Thanks and best regards, 
---

Their reply:

Dear ---, 

Thank you for reaching Eco Farms.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

This product was made from overseas not at Eco-Farms but we supplied labelling based on our best review at that time.

Please see attached the current label does not have the “Naturally Gluten Free” claim/icon.

Thank you

***

Interesting. Are they disclaiming liability for the labelling of their franchised product output? 

Setting all that aside, it goes to show none of us can be too careful. Labelling is only a guide. Always trust your gut - and please excuse the terrible pun.

Since I still can't find my preferred brand at the stores and online, I'm ordering Sainsbury's now, it seems to have a gluten-free marking but this is always going to be a bit of a crapshoot (an even more terrible pun lol). Let's hope it goes better. 

Scott Adams Grand Master

Thank you for sharing this, and it could definitely explain the issue you had with their product. In the USA such mislabeling could result in a product recall, so I'm also really surprised at their lack of accountability on their own gluten-free claim.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie
6 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

Thank you for sharing this, and it could definitely explain the issue you had with their product. In the USA such mislabeling could result in a product recall, so I'm also really surprised at their lack of accountability on their own gluten-free claim.

Yes, I fully agree that their inaction does not make them look good. 

By the way I'm linking the images for the actual can I got (with the misleading labelling) and the supposedly updated proper labelling (they sent me by email). 

Label on can I purchased

Label they sent me by email

 

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie

By the way, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt because I distinctly remember having had a reaction to the same beans (also labelled gluten free) more than a year ago. They really should have fixed the issue by now. Very disappointing. I am going to steer clear of all this company's products.

Scott Adams Grand Master

I just want to insert those images into this thread permanently for any future visitors:

IMG-20220318-072515-edit-54011705761028.webp

Screenshot-20220318-073132-com-microsoft-office-officehubrow-edit-54279298121925.webp

GlutenFreedom3141 Rookie
5 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

I just want to insert those images into this thread permanently for any future visitors:

IMG-20220318-072515-edit-54011705761028.webp

Screenshot-20220318-073132-com-microsoft-office-officehubrow-edit-54279298121925.webp

Sure, thank you Scott. I'm new here and couldn't figure out the controls.😂

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      126,474
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Paula ross
    Newest Member
    Paula ross
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.9k
    • Total Posts
      69.4k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @GardeningForHealth, On my journey, I found following the Autoimmune Paleo Diet most helpful in reducing reactions to various foods.  It's very restrictive, but it really helps improve gut health.  It's worth the effort for a few weeks or months. Tea from any grocery store; Tea, organic; Tea, grown in USA, never-sprayed, loose leaf Tea contains TANNINS which can inactivate Thiamin resulting in Thiamin deficiency.  Tannins inhibit the absorption of other vitamins and minerals, especially iron. Tannins can inactivate digestive enzymes.  So drink tea between meals.  Choose a tea with lower levels of tannin, like green tea or Oolong tea.  Oolong tea contains amino acid Theanine which reduces inflammation in the digestive tract. Dairy; Rice, any brand, even after washing 3 times Many people develop Lactose intolerance because damaged villi in the intestinal lining of the digestive tract cannot produce the enzyme Lactase needed to digest the sugar in dairy, Lactose.   Many people with Celiac Disease react to the protein Casein the same as they react to the protein Gluten.  This is because both Casein and Gluten, as well as the protein in rice, carry a similar segment of a protein building block chain (33 mer peptide) that triggers the autoimmune response in Celiac Disease.  Basmati rice is less likely to carry this protein chain and may be better tolerated.  Don't wash rice before cooking.  The added vitamins get washed away.  Some of those grains of rice are extruded vitamins.  They dissolved into the cooking water and are reabsorbed into the grains as the rice cooks. Organic catchup, Potatoes; Tomatoes are a member of the Nightshade vegetables which have been shown to increase gastrointestinal permeability and "leaky gut syndrome."  Potatoes, Peppers and Eggplant also belong to the Nightshades, and should be avoided until healed.  Catsup usually is acidic which can be irritating to the digestive system. Any and all brands of gluten-free breads and dessert items; Cassava flour; Gluten-free flour Often these contain cross contamination with gluten.  @Scott Adams recently posted a new article about this.  Gluten free products are not enriched with vitamins and minerals needed to digest and process them.  They are high in insoluble fiber and saturated fats.  These may also contain microbial transglutaminase, see below. Sausage, Any processed meat These foods contain microbial transglutaminase, a flavor and texture enhancer, called "meat glue" in the food processing industry, which triggers and provokes anti-gluten antibodies to attack the microbial transglutaminase as well as the tissue transglutaminase produced by our own bodies as with Celiac Disease.  We have articles about microbial transglutaminase, too.  Cassava also contains Thiaminase, an enzyme which destroys Thiamin. Cucumbers from a grocery store, but not from my garden, Most apples, Zucchini, Plums Cucumbers, like these other fruits and veggies, contain lots of soluble fiber, pectin, which intestinal bacteria can ferment and then make short chain fatty acids, which are beneficial.  So that's a good thing.  However, commercially produced breeds of veggies and fruits may contain higher levels of pectins than historically home grown varieties.  Excess consumption of pectins can result in gas, bloating and diarrhea.   Bottled spices  There's an article (perhaps @Scott Adams can help us find, please) about how some spices can cause gastrointestinal symptoms. Gluten-free dairy-free ice cream These can cause reactions if one reacts to oats.  Products made from nuts or nut milks may contain high levels of lectins which are hard to digest and can cause all the usual symptoms.   Smoke from a fire; Strong cleaning chemical fumes These contain Sulfites.  Developing a hyperensitivity to Sulfites is possible in Celiac Disease.  We can be low in vitamins and minerals needed to process Sulfites.  I have Hypersensitivity Type Four where the immune system identifies Sulfites as something to be attacked.  Celiac Disease is another Hypersensitivity Type Four disorder. Packaged sweet potato chips; Packaged plantain chips;  Rice; Any and all brands of gluten-free breads and dessert items; Cassava flour; Gluten-free flour; Gluten-free dairy-free ice cream A High Carbohydrate diet can lead to Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO).  Adopting a Paleo diet like the AIP diet is a great way to change your gut biome without using antibiotics which kill off the bad with the good bacteria.  Taking probiotics may not be very effective as long as SIBO bacteria are entrenched in the digestive tract.  You change what you eat and you change what grows inside you.  You starve out the bad SIBO bacteria, repopulate and feed the good ones.  Supplementing with Benfotiamin helps because thiamine has antibacterial properties that keeps the bad bacteria in check and benefits the good bacteria.  Benfotiamin is needed to process all those carbs turning them into energy instead of them turning to fat.   I hope this has been helpful.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum @Newhere19! Yes, we have had many forum members that for one reason or another cannot go forward with the confirmation step of the endoscopy with biopsy. Usually it is because they have already been gluten free for a significant period and react so severely to gluten ingestion that they cannot undertake the gluten challenge without endangering their health. But we also have had more than a few who have severe anxiety surrounding the endoscopy itself and cannot bring themselves to go forward with it. May I ask, what was your antibody score or scores, what was the name of the test or tests done and what were the ranges given for normal/negative vs. positive?  What symptoms do you have? What caused you to seek out celiac testing? And to answer your question, many on this forum have had to go forward with the gluten free diet without an official diagnosis for the reasons already stated. You should start seeing symptom improvement within weeks. But realize that achieving a truly free gluten lifestyle is more challenging than most of us realize at the outset. There is a real learning curve involved in order to achieve consistency. That is partly due to the many unexpected places gluten is tucked away in the food supply/supplements/medications and partly because of CC (Cross Contamination) issues. I will offer this primer to get you off to a good start:  
    • Newhere19
      I recently had bloodwork done with a GI specialist and was told that I have celiac.. .but they will not confirm the diagnosis without an endoscopy and biopsy. Due to severe trauma I cannot endure the endoscopy and they made it quite clear full sedation is not an option. So now I have to venture forward assuming this is in fact what is causing all of my symptoms. Has anyone else here had the same experience and started the gluten free diet to see if you're really suffering from celiac? If so, how long did you commit before safely saying the results are accurate? My thought was at least three months would be necessary. Much love to everyone ❤️ 
    • trents
    • Scott Adams
      Your experience sounds incredibly challenging and frustrating. It’s impressive that you’ve been so methodical in tracking your triggers and finding safe foods. While it may feel bizarre, sensitivities like these can sometimes point to underlying conditions like chemical sensitivities, histamine intolerance, or even specific food additives. Have you considered consulting with a functional medicine practitioner or allergist who might specialize in these types of issues? You’ve done a lot of the hard work already with your food diary, and that could provide valuable insights for a professional to help you further.
×
×
  • Create New...