Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

How important is a diagnosis?


misslemon

Recommended Posts

misslemon Rookie

Tl;dr:  I have very clear signs of gluten sensitivity, and I’m following a gluten free diet. My test from LabCorp was negative before going gluten free, but celiac disease runs in my family. Are there any advantages to eating gluten again to get a diagnosis? I have a history of mild-moderate depression and anxiety that I’m sure are related on some level. 

 

The longer version:  My first cousin and my mother have celiac disease. Mom was diagnosed a couple of years ago around age 60 after having an unexplained rash on her leg that wouldn’t go away.  

I intended to get tested because I was a first degree relative. Looking back I had some mild gastrointestinal symptoms, but I didn’t think much of it. I did notice my neck would get quite itchy and red. BUT before I could get around to finding a doctor and getting tested, an extremely stressful takeover situation developed at my job, and I went into survival mode, then started job searching and planning a cross country move. This was over the course of about 8 months.

I continued eating gluten so that I could get tested, but never got around finding a primary care physician to get tested with. 

As the work stress reached its peak and we were about to move cross country, my wrists began aching and swelling, and it got worse each day over the course of a week. The pain began traveling up my arms.  I cut out gluten altogether for a couple of days and things started getting better.  

I scheduled an appointment with LabCorp for celiac screening. I went back to eating gluten for a couple of days beforehand, but I had only been off it for a few days, less than a week anyway. Those results came back negative and my Immunoglobulin A.

 

I immediately stopped eating gluten on June 8, 2023, and the symptoms went away over a few days to a little over a week. After about 3-4 weeks, I reintroduced gluten for 24-36 hours, and the joint paint started to resume, so I eliminated it for good. I have assumed I have NCGS.

 

Since then I have been quite careful about avoiding gluten with a couple of stumbles.. A few times I ate things I thought probably had some amount—Chili Cheese Fritos, granola with oats, and would notice my wrists or fingers aching, increased anxiety & depression, and a rash of small raised dots on the back of my hands.  Once I ate a breadstick and my hands had the rash for a week. (Won’t do that again, it was quite scary and I felt mentally terrible.)   

 

For another example, last week when I saw the rash again, less severe, and realized some flavored pork rinds I’d been eating had gluten. I’d consumed quite a lot of them over a week or two before noticing, but by the time I realized the problem, my mood had tanked and I was horribly depressed for a few days.

 

It seems like I probably have NCGS, but I sometimes wonder if the celiac screener from LabCorp was off because I wasn’t eating enough gluten. 

The question is, given how miserable I was from one breadstick, is there any real reason eat two slices of bread a day for weeks to pursue more reliable testing or a formal diagnosis from a doctor? Are there any long term advantages?

 

I’m committed to eating gluten free, but I guess I’d like to have an indication of how worried I should be about trace contamination and minute levels.  On the other hand, eating that much gluten would probably make me feel horribly depressed for a long time. 

 

My results on the Lab Corp were:

 

tTG IGA: < 2.   Scale: ❤️ is negative, 4-10 weak positive and >10 positive.

 

Immunoglobulin A, Qn,:   206, where 87-356 is the normal range.
Serum 01

 

I appreciate any insight and perspectives!


 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



knitty kitty Grand Master
(edited)

Welcome to the forum, @misslemon!

You can get a genetic test for any of the genes known to cause Celiac Disease which would not require eating gluten.  Having the genes and improvement on a gluten free diet can be a diagnosis of Celiac Disease.  

You also stated you get a rash when you ate breadsticks.  That rash could be Dermatitis Herpetiformis which occurs in Celiac Disease.  A biopsy of skin next to a dermatitis herpetiformis blister can be taken, specially stained and examined for antigluten antibodies in the skin.  Dermatitis Herpetiformis is a diagnosis of Celiac Disease.

Anemia, Diabetes and Thiamine deficiency can affect antigluten antibody production in those with long-term undiagnosed untreated Celiac Disease.  False negatives on blood tests are possible in long standing untreated Celiac Disease.

You can have an endoscopy without a prior gluten challenge to take biopsies to examine for microscopic changes indicative of damage due to Celiac Disease.  

Celiac patients can have malabsorption problems that can result in serious health consequences.  One example is osteoporosis.  Carpal tunnel syndrome and peripheral neuropathy, anxiety and depression are other examples.  

With your strong family history of Celiac Disease and your symptoms, I suggest you at least get a genetic test.  

Keep us posted on your progress!

Edited by knitty kitty
Typo correction
misslemon Rookie

Thank you! This gives me some other ideas to consider!

Scott Adams Grand Master

It's certainly possible that you were not eating enough gluten before the tests, and it's too bad they did not do a full panel and do other blood antibody tests as well.

Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If your symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet it would likely signal NCGS.

This article might be helpful. It breaks down each type of test, and what a positive results means in terms of the probability that you might have celiac disease. One test that always needs to be done is the IgA Levels/Deficiency Test (often called "Total IGA") because some people are naturally IGA deficient, and if this is the case, then certain blood tests for celiac disease might be false-negative, and other types of tests need to be done to make an accurate diagnosis. The article includes the "Mayo Clinic Protocol," which is the best overall protocol for results to be ~98% accurate.

 

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to ohmichael's topic in Super Sensitive People
      1

      Curious if I should quit my job

    2. - Alibu replied to Alibu's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      6

      Waiting on biopsy after positive bloodwork, but also not really believing this is real

    3. - ohmichael posted a topic in Super Sensitive People
      1

      Curious if I should quit my job

    4. - Scott Adams replied to NightRaven92's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      2

      I am wondering if my symptoms are Celiac Disease related..

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Marky0320's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      CVS (Cyclic vomiting syndrome)


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      129,625
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sarah-Beth
    Newest Member
    Sarah-Beth
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.2k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Yes, IMO, you need to quit and look for another job. You can't put a price on your health. It's unfortunate that your parents don't understand but they don't have to live with the ravages of unattended celiac disease. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do and just be willing to live with the fact that some people will not understand. I don't know your age but that's being an adult and taking ownership of your life.
    • Alibu
      Oh I definitely am doing that!  I'm having a "last hurrah" leading up to the endoscopy and I am making sure to eat as much gluten as I can now.  I will say I am BLOATED but I've been this way for so many years, it's kind of my norm.  Just a couple more weeks until I have answers though, I hope!
    • ohmichael
      Just got a new job working at a grocery chain, never worked grocery before. Mon (19th) and Thur (22nd) started feeling flu-like, realized I had probably been glutened at work but not sure how, didn't eat it! Found out I probably breathed in loads of it while handling bread and flour products stocking shelves on those 2 dates. I am in pain, but I don't have a back-up plan and I can't keep damaging my body. I tried to ask for a reasonable accom. but the manager says it would be an undue burden because i have to avoid two aisles. I am sad because i liked this job to start but now I'm really going through it. Today I didn't stock bakery or baking aisle and I was just starting to come out of it, now the symptoms are starting up again. I live w my parents and they don't understand or care to understand. I will be unemployed while I search for something new, but I am damaging my body in this current job and they can't switch me anywhere because I'm part time and a new hire. Should I trust my intuition and quit, and then apply for jobs outside of my home so my parents believe I am still going to work (until I finally find a job that doesn't handle gluten)?
    • Scott Adams
      It’s great that you’ve scheduled a doctor’s appointment to address your symptoms, especially given your family history of autoimmune diseases, including celiac disease. Your symptoms—such as stomach pain, chronic diarrhea, nausea after gluten consumption, joint pain, and headaches—do align with common signs of celiac disease, so it’s definitely worth discussing with your doctor. To help your doctor understand your concerns clearly, consider writing down a detailed list of your symptoms, including when they started, how often they occur, and any patterns you’ve noticed (like symptoms worsening after eating gluten). Mentioning your family history of autoimmune conditions will also be helpful, as celiac disease has a genetic component. You might also ask about getting tested for celiac disease, which typically involves blood tests and possibly an endoscopy. Avoid cutting gluten out of your diet before testing, as this can affect the accuracy of the results. Hopefully, your doctor can provide clarity and guide you toward the right next steps—hang in there, and good luck with your appointment!
    • Scott Adams
      Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome (CVS) is not a common symptom of celiac disease, but there can be occasional overlap—particularly in children. Celiac disease typically presents with symptoms like chronic diarrhea, abdominal pain, fatigue, and nutrient deficiencies, while CVS is marked by repeated, intense vomiting episodes separated by periods of normal health. In rare cases, undiagnosed celiac disease can cause recurrent vomiting that mimics CVS, and symptoms may resolve on a gluten-free diet. Because of this, celiac disease should be ruled out in anyone diagnosed with CVS, especially if there are other gastrointestinal or nutritional concerns. However, vomiting alone is more often related to other conditions such as migraines or autonomic dysfunction.
×
×
  • Create New...