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Colleen H

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Hi everyone 

Is it possible after months have gone by to have a full blown accidental gluten attack?

I'm having the worse brain fog , neuro pain 

Burning pins and needles, nausea , you name it 

The mental part is horrible anxiety and depression.

I also have MS but this does not feel like my usual symptoms 

 

Sorry not sure if everyone gets this but something went wrong.  

Thank you so much for your support feedback 


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knitty kitty Grand Master

@Colleen H,

You poor thing, did you accidentally get glutened?  It's not unusual to have a dramatic up sweep of symptoms after an accidental glutening.   

Hope you don't mind if I ask some more questions in order to help you.

How long have you had these symptoms?  

What kind of foods do you eat?  

Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  

Colleen H Apprentice

Do you know how long it goes on for because the brain fog is bad ?

Yes I am vitamin b12 vitamin d and vitamin e 

Deficienct 

I'm not sure what foods did it.  How many days do I go back 

Thank you 

knitty kitty Grand Master
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@Colleen H,

It's helpful to keep a food journal to help pinpoint problematic foods.  But, we won't worry so much about that for now.  Let's get you feeling better.  

Are you taking a B Complex vitamin supplement?  B12 needs the other B vitamins and Vitamin C to function properly.  

I like Life Extension Bioactive B Complex and Benfotiamine, a form of thiamine that promotes intestinal healing and improves brain function.  

Neuropathy, burning pins and needles, as well as Braun fog, nausea, anxiety and depression are all symptoms of Thiamine deficiency.  

Thiamine, in the form Thiamine hydrochloride or Benfotiamine or Thiamine TTFD, are all good forms of thiamine to take.  

There are studies that show that taking Thiamine supplements like these can improve MS as well.  

I had health improvement within half an hour of taking Thiamine.  

Can you order some Benfotiamine?

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Colleen H Apprentice

What is bentfotiamine ?  Never heard of it

 

Thank you so much 

knitty kitty Grand Master

Benfotiamine is a form of thiamine which has a fatty tail attached to it.  This fatty tail allows it to slip into a cell by merging the fatty tail with the fatty cell membrane.  

Thiamine Hydrochloride must enter into a cell by using a thiamine transporter, sort of like a stage door with a bouncer for VIP guests only.  Thiamine and Folate use the same transporters to enter cells.  In thiamine deficiency, these transporters shut down and thiamine hydrochloride can no longer enter through those transporters.  Folate, too, can have difficulty entering cells through the transporters, which can result in anemia. 

High doses of Thiamine Hydrochloride must be taken to "storm the gates" and force the transporters to reopen. Higher concentrations of Thiamine Hydrochloride outside cells cause movement of Thiamine to the lower concentration inside cells by passive diffusion.  

However, if subclinical thiamine deficiency has gone on for a while, there are fewer and fewer thiamine transporters present on the cell membranes.  So even high dose thiamine hydrochloride may not get into cells as effectively as Benfotiamine with its lipid tail that can allow thiamine to slip in easily.  People with autoimmune diseases tend to have fewer thiamine transporters and low thiamine blood levels.

Benfotiamine has been shown to improve depression, anxiety, neuropathy, and fatigue.  Benfotiamine helps protect the myelin sheaths that protect nerves.

References:

High dose thiamine improves fatigue in multiple sclerosis

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3736110/

Vitamin B1 Intake in Multiple Sclerosis Patients and its Impact on Depression Presence: A Pilot Study

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7551277/

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