Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Blood Test Taken Yesterday


mari-lyn

Recommended Posts

mari-lyn Rookie

My mother's twin sister was dx. 45 years ago at Mayo, so, I grew up knowing about celiac disease. She had the weight loss and GI problems. The Mayo clinic wanted my mom to come for "tests". She was in Ohio with 4 children and they were not going to reimburse for travel,etc. So, it did not happen. I have a niece (dx at 15, dx with Diabetes at 9). Most likely my oldest sister had it (she has passed away) and when her daughter held her stomach after a meal I suggested that she go get tested.

Anyway, I asked for a blood test after a suspicious rash about 2 months ago - on feet and then hands (fairly symetrical).

My question is - genetically, celiac disease is strong, but no one has DH...I am a little confused. Are all people with DH also Celiac or are people with DH gluten sensitive. I am sorry if this has been addressed in the past messages...it was a question that just came to me. I have read the info on this site. I understand that many people with DH may have celiac disease and that people with DH respond to a Gluten free lifestyle.

Hopefully, I get the results tomorrow. They had to be mailed to Mayo. Thankfully, my doctor did not question my request. She FAXed over the order and I went upstairs to the lab. (I work in a small critical access hospital - 25 beds- average patient meals - 10 {however, 4 today}).

But after reading here it seems that I might need a skin biopsy? - the blood test might not tell me about the absence/presence of DH.

Isnt' technology wonderful. What did people do before they could talk with everyone?

Marilyn


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mari-lyn Rookie
Hi Marilyn:-) *Genetically*, many Celiac's, MS patients, cystic fibrosis patients, etc...have a high rate of this and the test most doctors use for this is not sensitive enough...you might want to request a Western Blot...

Open Original Shared Link

So, this might be latent Lyme disease?

GFBetsy Rookie

Marilyn -

DH is like one of those Vinn Diagrams you had to do in Math class when you were younger. You draw a big circle and write "celiac" in it, and then draw a smaller circle inside the big circle and label it "DH". In other words, all people who have DH have celiac, but not all people who have celiac have DH. I have 1 mother, 3 aunts, 2 sisters, 1 nephew, 1 daughter, 6 - 10 cousins (it's hard to remember which have it and which don't) and at least 2 first-cousins-once-removed who have celiac disease (all on the same side of the family), and only ONE of them has DH. In fact, it was the one who has DH who started everyone else on the path to diagnosis, because (up to that point) my mom and her sisters had been watching out for the classic signs of celiac (they knew the disease ran in the family), and no-one had presented with those classic symptoms. But that itchy rash that my cousin had resulted in her diagnosis with celiac, which resulted in a lot of my family members being tested, which led to an awful lot of gluten-free cooking in my mother's family!

I think you did the right thing in asking to have blood work done. If it comes back negative, you might want to consider having your rash biopsied. (Remember to make sure they biopsy the skin NEXT TO the blisters, not the blisters themselves.) If it comes back positive for DH, that means you've got celiac too, which means you need to eat gluten free. And that's irrespective of whether you have latent Lyme disease or not.

Good luck in figuring things out!

GFBetsy Rookie

Marilyn -

Just wanted to clarify a bit on my last post: If your blood work comes back positive, then you've got celiac, and you need to avoid gluten. But sometimes (up to 14% on the most accurate test, according to one of my husband's labratory magazines) people who do have celiac have negative test results. That is why I suggest that if your blood work is negative you ought to have a skin biopsy of your rash done. I dont' have much knowledge about the accuracy of the skin biopsy procedures, but at least it will give you a second chance to see if your rash is being cause by gluten intolerance.

And, after all that work looking for a medical diagnosis, I would also suggest that you give the diet a try anyway (if your results come back negative). After all, you know this disease runs in your family. The fact that you are on this board means that you suspect you may have it. If the doctors inform you that you DON'T have it, that's no reason for you NOT to try the diet. It won't hurt you to go gluten-free for a couple of months and see if your rash responds positively.

Those are my suggestions, anyway. Hope they are helpful . . . and good luck in figuring out what your rash is (whether it is DH or something else). (Considering your genetic history, though, I wouldn't be surprised if it is celiac . . . and, hey! at least you've already found this site, so if you DO have celiac you've already got a lot of the information and support that you'll need to successfully deal with the dietary change!)

Best Wishes!

mari-lyn Rookie

Thanks for all of the info - especially the % - etc.

Glianid Anibodies (IGA) - 4.1

Reticuluin AB negative (no numbers)

Tissue Transgultn 5.6 (range 0 - 30).

Anyway, have to run off to church but I sure have appreciated everyone's advice and time.

I am the founder of the support group at the hospital where I work so I am not far from celiac disease each day and all of the wonderful people that I have met.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Insomnia help

    2. - TheDHhurts posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      need help understanding testing result for Naked Nutrition Creatine please

    3. - cristiana replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Insomnia help

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,107
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Maggie1349
    Newest Member
    Maggie1349
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @cristiana,  I react the same way.  Dairy consumption flushes out my digestive system within an hour, too! As casein is digested, it forms casomorphins that bind to opioid receptors in our bodies.  This is similar to digested gluten peptides being able to attach to opioid receptors in our bodies.   We have opioid receptors throughout our bodies including lots in the digestive tract. Casein raises tTg IgA antibodies just like gluten consumption does, which leads to further intestinal damage and continuing inflammation.  No wonder our bodies react to it by pushing the "emergency evacuation" ejection seat button! The mother of my childhood friend was British and introduced me to drinking tea properly with milk or cream.  I miss it so much.  And chocolate ice cream.  Not worth the after effects, though.  I've found taking Omega Three supplements (flaxseed oil, sunflower seed oil, evening primrose oil) helps shake those dairy cravings.   Green leafy veggies like broccoli, kale, and greens (mustard, turnip, collards) are great sources of calcium.  Avoid spinach as it is high in oxalates that block calcium absorption and may cause kidney stones.  Yes, more leafy greens are needed to reach the same amount of calcium in a glass of milk, but the greens have other benefits, like increased dietary fiber and polyphenols that act as antioxidants, reduce inflammation, and promote health.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards.  The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.   Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.  Another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.  
    • TheDHhurts
      Hi, I bought Naked Nutrition Creatine. It lists itself as gluten free but is not certified. (It used to be, but they dropped it in the past year or two apparently.) I wrote the company and asked them what testing results they had for creatine and they sent me the attached, which says the test result for gluten is <0.025MCG. I'm used to seeing test results as ppm, so I'm not sure what <0.025MCG means. Can it be converted to ppm easily? I want to confirm that it is safe to use.
    • cristiana
      When I was still recovering my gastroenterologist suggested I bought lactofree product as I was very bloated.  So I bought some from the supermarket and from memory, I drank a nice big glass of milk - and it went right through me literally within an hour or so, if my memory serves correctly.  I came off dairy completely next and it worked like a charm, but started to reintroduce quite gradually it as I missed it! To this day, if I overdo dairy products, they work like a mild laxative.  I've never wanted to give up milk completely as I like it so much, and my mum had osteoporosis and it's an easy way of getting calcium.  But it doesn't really 'sit' well with me.   You may need to experiment a bit as when I was healing certain dairy products were worse than others - I could cope with one brand of Greek yoghurt, but I got extremely and painfully bloated with another brand of live British yoghurt.  
    • wellthatsfun
      i have been strictly gluten free for 7 months. this includes avoiding anything that may contain gluten and making sure surfaces and appliances are clean. i am 18 years old in australia and my tTG-IgA results were 69U/mL, pretty low compared to most people's, for reference. i feel the exact same as before. sure, i was pretty much asymptomatic/silent. the worst i'd get was occasionally bad stools and pitting of the nails/brittle hair since early childhood - and i was diagnosed with low iron and vitamin d which checks out due to easy bruising and such. but those symptoms have remained. maybe i'm jumping the gun, sure. i know it can take years to fully heal. but being over half a year in, i feel that i should be, y'know, healing. i'm nearly at my wits end and wondering if i should have a piece of bread or something to see how i go - to see if i possibly have refractory? my mental health is declining as i feel myself wanting to bang my head against a damn wall out of frustration every day. cravings haven't gotten better. look, i love the stuff i still can have, like salads and such. OH! i haven't lost any weight, which is mind boggling considering i eat very healthily now! i've always been on the chubbier side which is atypical of coeliac. i just don't know what's going on with me. i try to remain hopeful but i'm just so sad all the time. thanks for reading  
    • trents
      @Charlie1946There is a PM (Personal Message) tool built into the forum website that allows you to send a private message to other forum users. Just hover over their name with your mouse cursor and the menu containing that tool will pop up. This is useful if you want to communicate with an individual without everyone else involved in the thread seeing it.  Are you realizing that in my PPI taper down recommendations in an earlier post above, I was responding not to your posts but to @Caligirl57? If you must use a PPI, I certainly would advise taking the lowest dose that is effective for you.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.