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Help For Toothache Relief

Guest AutumnE

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I split my tooth tonight in the back all the way up past the gum. I dont know how though! I have a slight nagging pain in it unless I drink cold stuff then it hurts terribly. The worst part of it is though is the headache!

I have shooting pain up the back of my neck and head from it. I called my dentist and he said it wasnt an emergency and to take pain relief and he would see me on monday. Problem is I have glaucoma, its not recommended for me to take pain relievers as they increase the pressure in my eye so Im trying to hold out. Not to mention I am dealing with pneumonia and had fricking kidney stones I passed on saturday, ugh hopefully with this being the third it will be the end.

Anyways (back on topic) what do you recommend to ease the pain other than otc pain meds?

Thanks so much for your help :)

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jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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You poor thing! I cracked a tooth once and it was not pleasant.

Try a warm, moist washcloth on your jaw where the tooth is. :)

Guest AutumnE
Guest AutumnE
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Thanks so much, especially for the quick reply :)

Im off to try it!

angst2amity Rookie
angst2amity
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I have had lots of teeth crack out of my head - try this baby ambesol for teething right on the tooth. Sometimes it can numb the root nerve a little bit. Don't know if it is gluten-free as I just learned about Celiac 1 month ago.

Worst pain in the world, I think. Hang in there, hope you feel better.

Guest AutumnE
Guest AutumnE
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Thanks, I'll have to see if its alright and make sure it doesnt raise eye pressure and is gluten free. Pain like this sure makes you feel for your little ones with teeth coming in. It's driving me nuts.

darlindeb25 Collaborator
darlindeb25
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Orajel is gluten-free too and works very well to numb the area.

debmidge Rising Star
debmidge
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This certainly sounds like an emergency to me. It sounds like a nerve is exposed. Too bad you have to wait until Monday....

There are dental things you can buy at drugstore like wax to put over the tooth. it might not stay on while you are eating...but you can try it.

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I split my tooth tonight in the back all the way up past the gum. I dont know how though! I have a slight nagging pain in it unless I drink cold stuff then it hurts terribly. The worst part of it is though is the headache!

I have shooting pain up the back of my neck and head from it. I called my dentist and he said it wasnt an emergency and to take pain relief and he would see me on monday. Problem is I have glaucoma, its not recommended for me to take pain relievers as they increase the pressure in my eye so Im trying to hold out. Not to mention I am dealing with pneumonia and had fricking kidney stones I passed on saturday, ugh hopefully with this being the third it will be the end.

Anyways (back on topic) what do you recommend to ease the pain other than otc pain meds?

Thanks so much for your help :)

Try rinsing your mouth out with warm epson salt. This works for tooth ache. If you have a water pic you can use that with the epson salt. :)

Guest AutumnE
Guest AutumnE
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Thanks for your help, Im still gargling sea salt water. I went to the dentist and he said since I am severely stuffed up it might be from my cold :blink: It might be worsened because it is next to my sinuses but I dont buy it, it didn't hurt till the other day. He did find the crack and said to wait till ny sinuses clear and then see if it still hurts. I'm thinking he has two weeks off from christmas vacation and is not wanting to squeeze me in if it can wait.

Im going to wait it out since frankly I dont have the money for this with christmas here and its not too much pain right now where I can stand it. No signs of decay or infection yet so he felt okay with putting it off.

Honestly Im not pleased with the treatment they would give me for it anyways. He said he would try and do a crown but if its in the pulp it would still hurt and he would have to pull it anyway. I dont want to spend around 800 dollars for a crown and then another couple hundred to pull it. I would do it for my daughter but not for me. Its the farthest tooth in the back and if its causing major problems I'm tempted to tell him to pull it, you cant see it when I smile anyways.

Autumn

angst2amity Rookie
angst2amity
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Honestly Im not pleased with the treatment they would give me for it anyways. He said he would try and do a crown but if its in the pulp it would still hurt and he would have to pull it anyway. I dont want to spend around 800 dollars for a crown and then another couple hundred to pull it. I would do it for my daughter but not for me. Its the farthest tooth in the back and if its causing major problems I'm tempted to tell him to pull it, you cant see it when I smile anyways.

Autumn

Those were some of the first of mine to go. After about 4 root canals in the same tooth, I had the first one extracted. I told the puller "I could just kiss you!" If I had to do this all over again - and I have - I usually let them RC a tooth once and if it goes bad, I pull it. I have lost several teeth and I plan to get implants because as you lose more lower teeth the top ones will come loose. I have had bridges made - $6000 each and then had to have them cut off because the teeth they were hooked onto got to have the 4 root canal treatment!! So far, you can't see any of my tooth loss when I smile. I do have a cow bone in my right lower jaw because I let them root canal over and over and the infections ate away the bone. I have an awesome dentist though, he does those extreme makeovers locally. My teeth have been a learning experience for him and I. And he hears me, lots of doctors don't.

Hope your tooth heals up, gets covered fine, and you have no more pain!!

Guest AutumnE
Guest AutumnE
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Thanks :) You seem on the same track I am on so many things. My dentist looked at me oddly when I mentioned just pulling it and not putting a bridge in (cost too much and a pain to clean). He thought it was drastic. I see root canal as a possibility for awhile and just cutting my money and adding to his. I do contribute to alot of my problems with my teeth. Im a huge teeth grinder and I wore through the brace I had and insurance only pays for one and they are about $400 a piece and I eat ice :ph34r: It's a bad habit but I do it now without being aware of it.

angst2amity Rookie
angst2amity
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Thanks :) You seem on the same track I am on so many things. My dentist looked at me oddly when I mentioned just pulling it and not putting a bridge in (cost too much and a pain to clean). He thought it was drastic. I see root canal as a possibility for awhile and just cutting my money and adding to his. I do contribute to alot of my problems with my teeth. Im a huge teeth grinder and I wore through the brace I had and insurance only pays for one and they are about $400 a piece and I eat ice :ph34r: It's a bad habit but I do it now without being aware of it.

TWO MAJOR THINGS:

1. You can buy a brace for sports that you bite into when hot and it will fit to your teeth for like $5. I can't wear my $400 piece of plastic cause too many teeth are missing now. :D

2. I just read some new research that says eating ice is a "PICA" - remember when you were pregnant and they asked if you craved eating weird things like clay - because it means you are deficient in a mineral.

Well eating ice indicates that you are currently anemic - the more you eat, the worse the anemia. You should go to the doctor!! You need iron.

My father is an ice-chomper and has chronic anemia.

Guest AutumnE
Guest AutumnE
Posted

Hmmm, I didnt know that about ice. I was iron deficient anemic years ago but I just had a blood test not long ago and supposedly it was fine by lab standards. I wonder if the lab standards are accurate?

Can you buy iron in health food stores?

I'll try the sports ones, hopefully that will help too.

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