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Gluten In Some Animal Meats?


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Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced one particular animal meat that seems to cause problems for them - almost like getting glutened???

I am suspecting some venison from a deer I got this past fall. Each time I eat either steaks or roasts from it (all seasoned/cooked with gluten-free ingredients), I get glutened-type reactions. Though not as bad as if I got glutened, they are still bad enough. I get cramps, bloated, constipated (yes, that is the different part!), etc...

I suspect that because I hunt in an area mainly surrounded by wheat, barley, and rye farmers, that maybe the deer could eat enough to have it pass into their meat too? I do not have this probelm with any beef or pork though, which I am sure at times are fed grains as well.

Anyone out there have this problem??? I know how to solve it - just stop eating venison, but I just want to know if it is just venison, or if this concept is possible???? :wacko:


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happygirl Collaborator

Gluten does not pass through in meats. So if you are having a problem, it is not gluten related.

dlp252 Apprentice

It IS possible to react to the meat itself. I have many intolerances, including a couple of meats, and my reactions are similar to if I had ingested gluten.

2kids4me Contributor

I know few people who get gassy with venison or moose meat, I get gassy and a bit uncomfortable with it... Anytime you eat a food that you dont have frequently , it can cause digestive symptoms . I dont have problem with beef, or chicken and a lot of beef animals/chickens are grain fed

Viola 1 Rookie

I've eaten deer, elk and moose, and have no problem gluten wise with any of them. However, they do tend to be a bit more coarse than beef, so perhaps causing a bit of an up set tummy.

As well, they are extremely lean compared to beef, although I don't know if that would be a problem for anyone or not.

Juliebove Rising Star

It's possible to be allergic to meat. My mom is allergic to chicken.

tarnalberry Community Regular

Yep, it is not a problem. The proteins in the grains are metabolized by the digestive system and not directly 'stuck' into the proteins in the muscle of the animal.


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Thought this might be of interest:

In fact, a wilderness survival guide I read talks about how a diet composed of nothing but game meat will lead to diarrhea and hence dehydration, because there is not enough fat for all the protein to be digested, so it passes right through you and causes digestive upset.

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Thought this might be of interest:

sandy

Yes, I've seen that happen even with dogs and wild meat.

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