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SunnyDyRain Enthusiast
SunnyDyRain
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Ok, I have thought about it, took your suggestions, and figured out it's Dairy that's makign me sick.

Now I need to understand Dairy intolerance!

How do I tell if it's a problem with lactose, or problem with casiens?

What are the differences?

Are they harming me(like gluten does to intestines), or just making me sick(making me run to the bathroom)?

Does it sound right when I say I don't get sick from cream in my coffee, but get sick from ice cream and sour cream (both gluten free).

I hear people get over it.... how long did it take?

It's been one month (to the day actually) that I started gluten free, and i'm starting to finally figure this out, and now more restrictions! :angry:

Why won't my body and my tastebuds get along?

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gfgypsyqueen
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My child recently went completely dairy/casein free. Believe it or not, I found the dairy.casein very hard to figure out at first. And I am still learning. FAAN has shopping cards you can buy that help.

Look for Vegan products. At first I bought a lot of dairy free, non-dairy, lactose free cheeses and things and found out once I learned more that all of them contained something that was a dairy or casein product. Very upsetting.

From what I have been told, Casein is not labeled as a milk product. But things that are Vegan are free of all animal products and therefore free or dairy and casein.

My child reacts to trace amounts of dairy, so we are very strict.

Some people can handle small amounts (like the milk in your coffee). Your gastro can run a blood test to see if you have a lactose problem. I do not know if they test for casein.

As for the damage, I do not know scientifically, but I know my kid was failing to thrive and since going dairy/casein free she has gained a few lbs and grown in just one month. So I assume it is doing something bad to your intestines.

That's all I know :P

kabowman Explorer
kabowman
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Often, the coffee creamers just have casein (check the label) which would mean lactose only.

A good, easy test is, take lactose pills and eat some dairy, if they help, you can have casein, if not, the elemiate all.

My son needs 3 lactose pills to handle dairy so you may need to try multiple amounts to see if it is just the lactose.

SunnyDyRain Enthusiast
SunnyDyRain
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Often, the coffee creamers just have casein (check the label) which would mean lactose only.

A good, easy test is, take lactose pills and eat some dairy, if they help, you can have casein, if not, the elemiate all.

My son needs 3 lactose pills to handle dairy so you may need to try multiple amounts to see if it is just the lactose.

I use 2% milk in my coffee, so it definitely has lactose. I actually use quite a bit too 1/4 milk, 3/4 coffee.

I may try some pills... anything to help!

hathor Contributor
hathor
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Lactose intolerance means you have a problem digesting milk sugar. Casein intolerance means your system is having an immune response to milk protein. As you can see, I was tested for the latter. According to Enterolab and other sources I've read (although there isn't as much on this as for gluten intolerance), continuing to eat casein if you are intolerant isn't good for your body.

I guess one way you could tell is to try products for the lactose intolerant. If you no longer have problems, there's your answer.

Or you can buy some product that has added casein and not lactose and see what happens. There are soy and rice cheese products, for instance, that add casein. I've only heard of one rice cheese product that doesn't -- and I haven't found it in any local store, nor any way to order it.

Lists of ingredients for any product will say if casein or caseinates are added, or if there is anything obviously dairy, like whey.

If you have the money, you could also be tested.

NoGluGirl Contributor
NoGluGirl
Posted
Ok, I have thought about it, took your suggestions, and figured out it's Dairy that's makign me sick.

Now I need to understand Dairy intolerance!

How do I tell if it's a problem with lactose, or problem with casiens?

What are the differences?

Are they harming me(like gluten does to intestines), or just making me sick(making me run to the bathroom)?

Does it sound right when I say I don't get sick from cream in my coffee, but get sick from ice cream and sour cream (both gluten free).

I hear people get over it.... how long did it take?

It's been one month (to the day actually) that I started gluten free, and i'm starting to finally figure this out, and now more restrictions! :angry:

Why won't my body and my tastebuds get along?

Dear SunnyDyRain,

I have the same trouble! I can tolerate a small amount in milk chocolate, but if I eat a pudding cup or yogurt I get as a bad a reaction as I get from gluten. I am not sure if it is the casein or the lactose. Cheese normally has no lactose. If you tolerate cheese, then it is probably lactose. Casein is in everything dairy, at least as far as I know.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

hathor Contributor
hathor
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"Casein is in everything dairy, at least as far as I know."

I've read that ghee is so clarified you just have fat & no milk protein left. I know I've never had any problems at Indian restaurants (once I stopped eating all their yummy breads :( ) I was trying to find something definitive online, but failed. I guess my google mojo isn't working today. I did find an ad for ghee that said it was casein free, though :rolleyes:

Of course, you aren't going to put ghee in your coffee :blink:

The casein reaction for me does seem to be dose-related. A little bit in milk chocolate I won't notice -- but I like dark chocolate better anyway. :rolleyes: A slab of cheesecake like I had last Thanksgiving before I knew I was casein-intolerant - I was sick for days.

I figure it best to avoid any damage I might be doing to my system from even small amounts. Some think that casein can damage your intestines or prevent them from healing.

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