Gluten-like Symptoms With Rice?

[FreyaUSA]

For the last three weeks I've been having that dull, I've been glutened feeling. Not the full blown migraine, GI fun that I get when really glutened, just the residual kind: a dull headache, burbly stomach, depression. The only thing I'm doing now that I wasn't doing before is eating rice far more often. It's in my breakfast cereal. Bread. Brownies. Etc. I'd pretty much stopped eating all grains except the occasional corn tortilla or chips before this. Is it possible to have reactions like this to rice or other grains? I was doing fine today until I had a piece of gluten-free cake after dinner (and it was so good, too. ) Now, I feel yuck again.

[tom]

Lately i've found i can get like that from the sugar in a piece of cake. Or a candy bar. Heck even the sugar i used to put in coffee. I'm Splenda for coffee now.

I'd never thought of sugar as a problem for me before. I hope w/ enough villi repair i can feel confident about having gluten-free cake before long.

[darlindeb25]

hate to tell u this freyUSA--yup--some of us do react to other grains after going gluten-free--make sure your rice cereal doesnt have barley malt or malt flavoring in it--i have this same problem with soy products--i have read in here where some of us do have problems with rice and you do have to watch rice too, if its enriched, it could contain gluten---corn is a problem for some too--seems like a never ending battle sometimes ---have you checked your shampoos and such--that could be the problem too---deb

[baldridgem]

Starches and sugar are no-no for me. MB

[FreyaUSA]

I had not, even once, considered sugar being the problem. NOOOO! I'm screaming because today, while not having any grains, I had one little Reese's PB cup and started feeling ick afterwards. Not as bad as I felt after the piece of cake, but it was something of a reaction. And, I just had a small dish of ice cream (no gluten or rice...) but I'm getting that knocked in the back of the head feeling. Ugh! I'd think I'd prefer it being rice to sugar. (Btw, does this mean ALL sugar or just added sugar and majorly sugary items? How about things like muffins or barbeque sauce? How about fruit? Aargh!)

I'm very careful about cereals. Crunch'ems, Mesa Sunrise and Cranberry Sunshine are all I eat (the rest are too sweet.) Unless something cross contaminated, they should be fine. (I don't allow any non-checked cereals in the house because my kids will eat any cereal they find and I won't take that chance with them.)

So, tomorrow, no grains and no sugar. Who knows, by the end of the week I might have to become a freshairian...

(And thank you all for responding!)

[klgriff]

Hi, I'm new to this group - in fact this is my first post. But, I wanted to say that I also feel bad after eating: sugar, gluten, rice, corn, and potatoes. I recently came across a book called "Breaking the Vicious Cycle, a guide to intestinal health" by Elaine Gottschall. This book was a real eye opener and it explains a diet called the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. Basically - you stay off of all the aforementioned ingredients. Supposedly this will clear out your gut and if you stay on it long enough (about 2 years), eventually you can re-introduce those foods. I haven't been on it long enough to say that it works (only about 2 weeks)- but I sure feel better and don't have any of the side effects I was having when eating those foods. Anyway, just a thought! It's an interesting book and it gives you hope that you won't have to stay off of sugar, gluten, rice, corn and potatoes for the rest of your life. It also explains why you can digest certain things easier than others. I highly recommend the read. I bought the book from amazon .com.

[OhNoes]

I read that book too. Sugar is a disaccharide, and thus requires digestion. Honey and fruit are monosaccharides and are absorbed without needing to be broken down further. Works for me. You might give it a try and just see if you feel better.

[FreyaUSA]

This is kind of an update on my "no grains at all" test of this last week. I've not had any grains all week (since last sunday) and, by Wednesday, I was feeling pretty good. Yesterday I tried something with corn and had no problem (YEA!) Today, making a cake for my daughter (containing rice flour) I tasted the batter(wasn't thinking about it, just did it ) so, I thought, to really test (since I'd done that already) I should have a little more (I just took another little taste because gluten-free batter isn't that great, imo.) Here it is 30 minutes later and I feel like I've been hit in the back of the head. UGH!

I so didn't want this to be a problem. Now, I'm going to have to give up all the purchaseable premade gluten-free baked goods I like (like BRM brownies... .) If I ever gain weight again I'll just have to laugh.

Klgriff, unless I have to give up corn, too, I'm going to delay following that way of eating as much as I can! Yet, it seems I'm being forced into it. NOOOO!

[SteveW]

After a year of being diag w/Celiac Disease and Crohns, trying different gluten-free diets(Blood type,SCD......) I've come to the conclusion that ALL GRAINS are not working for me. I can eat rice one time without an apparent reaction but if I eat rice say once a day for 4 days straight I will start to have GI issues. Also potatoes, corn , soy, beans and dairy are out. Meat, veggies and some fruits are what I eat.

I'm pretty much back on the SCD other than my meds for Crohns.

I've been making muffins and pancakes with almond flour and it's not half bad. I don't handle Honey that well so I use berries or apple sauce for sweetness. Nothing like the Dunkin Donuts muffin I use to eat every morning but does the trick.