Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help!


Gluten=bad

Recommended Posts

Gluten=bad Apprentice

Hi all, I was diagnosed last month with Celiac disease. At the time I went to the doctor for a physical and she noticed a rash on my upper back (both sides). It was itchy some and seemed to get worse after bathing and then toweling off. I started a gluten-free diet and will admit that I cheated three days out of last week. However, as of last Saturday night I have not had one single thing containing gluten unless of course there has been cross-contamination. I try to be very careful and after cheating and getting the GI upset, fatigue, and rash that spread to my shoulders; I had had enough. I have noticed this week though that the rash has started flaring up again with itchiness mostly noted at night. What am I doing wrong? My doctor advised me to get some OTC itch cream as she didn't want to prescribe the strong meds that combat DH I'm guessing. I haven't had a biopsy done of one of the skin lesions, but had positive blood work (gene) for Celiac disease. What can I do and how long does this normally take to go away?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ursa Major Collaborator

The smallest amount of gluten can make DH flare up, and it could take a while before it calms down again.

It can take up to two years for the gliadin deposits under the skin to be gone, and until then you you can have flare ups for no obvious reasons (even though those are usually milder). But if you cheat, you are in for it!

I hope you are really convinced now to be gluten-free, because the itch from DH can literally drive you insane (I read that during the last century, before the cause was known and there was nothing that would help, some people with DH REALLY went crazy, and quite a few committed suicide).

I hope the rash clears up soon, and you feel better. And no more gluten! :blink:

itchygirl Newbie
I hope you are really convinced now to be gluten-free, because the itch from DH can literally drive you insane (I read that during the last century, before the cause was known and there was nothing that would help, some people with DH REALLY went crazy, and quite a few committed suicide).

That is absolutely true. In Samter's Immunologic Diseases it says that "before the discovery of Dapsone as an effective therapy for this disease the most common cause of mortality in dermatitis herpetiformis was suicide prompted by intractable puritis and complicated by skeptical physician reaction..."

Ursa Major Collaborator

Of course, Dapsone is not REALLY a valid treatment, because it only treats symptoms, not the cause. It is helpful to some people to get some relief until the gluten-free diet will control the DH. But the only real treatment is the gluten-free diet.

KimmyJ Rookie

I would add that if you can avoid Dapsone at all costs, do so. I was never on it, but literally within a week of going gluten-free, my DH was almost completely gone! It felt like a miracle to me because it was absolutely unbearable before! As others have posted, getting any gluten can (and probably will!) cause a flare-up that will quickly convince you that cheating is not a good plan. Anyhow, the possible side-effects and complications associated with Dapsone are just not worth it in my opinion. Especially since, as PP said, it only treats symptoms. I hope you feel better soon! It really is miserable getting it sorted out.

itchygirl Newbie

I was on Dapsone and it made me think I was walking sideways all the time. Plus I felt like I had the flu. A really bad flu. But the walking sideways thing was really annoying. It felt like I'd just gotten off a tilt-a-whirl or other circus ride. :(

flourgirl Apprentice

I agree that the Dapsone may be worse than suffering through the itches! I had DH all over, and had it for many weeks before it subsided. As hard as it was not to scratch while awake, I was scratching in my sleep. I was using bath soaks, anything that soothed, and there is a clear calamine lotion that helped at least somewhat. It didn't draw as much attention as the pink stuff, since I had it on my neck and face, as well as chest, belly, arms legs....you know, everywhere. The good news is that it will go away eventually IF you stick to the gluten-free diet. Now I find that I'm really sensitive, I break out in blisters with iodized salt, or with ibuprofen. But at least the blisters are few, and the patches are small. Good luck, heal quickly!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Gluten=bad Apprentice

Thanks guys, it's slowly getting better. :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to Trish G's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Fiber Supplement

    2. - Trish G posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Fiber Supplement

    3. - kpf replied to kpf's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      9

      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Rejoicephd's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      4

      Basic metabolic panel results - more flags


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,333
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    jlcvt
    Newest Member
    jlcvt
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Trish G! "Gluten free" does not necessarily equate to "no gluten". According to FDA standards it actually means that a food product contains no more than 20ppm of gluten. This is safe for most celiacs but would not be for those who are on the more sensitive end of the spectrum. So, it would depend on the individual celiac and their level of sensitivity to minor amounts of gluten. That's the long and nuanced answer. The short answer is that it is a product derived from wheat and so you can be certain it will contain some residual amounts of gluten. No gluten removal process is 100% effective. So, to be absolutely certain, stay away from it. Have you tried chia seeds? Very high in fiber and quickly turns into a gel when added to water. Make sure you get seeds that are gluten free if you decide to try it.
    • Trish G
      I was taking Benefiber for my IBS-C before my celiac diagnosis. It does say Gluten Free but lists Wheat Dextrin on the label. I really dont like psyllium fiber, so is there anything else I can take or is the Benefiber really ok for someone with Celiac disease?  Thanks!!!
    • kpf
      Abdominal pain and an itchy stomach were the symptoms I asked to see a GI about. Now I’ve learned these other symptoms—that I have but attributed to other issues—could also be related to celiac disease:  fatigue joint pain canker sores numbness or tingling in hands or feet difficulty with coordination anemia headaches neutropenia I never dreamed in a million years she would consider celiac disease. It was a shock to me. It’s definitely not what I went to her for. 
    • knitty kitty
      @Rejoicephd, I'm not a doctor, but I experienced severe thiamine deficiency.  Your symptoms seem really familiar.  Malabsorption is a real thing that happens with Celiac.  A multivitamin is not going to prevent nor correct nutritional deficiencies.    Doctors do not recognize nutritional deficiency symptoms.  Gastrointestinal Beriberi is not recognized often.  Caused by thiamine deficiency, high dose thiamine supplements or IV administration with other vitamins, minerals and glucose under doctor's care is needed.   Thiamine deficiency is found in anemia.  Thiamine deficiency in the kidneys can result in electrolyte imbalances and cloudy urine.  Thiamine deficiency can cause high blood sugar which can cause cloudy urine.  Dehydration can cause cloudy urine.   I'm linking some PubMed articles.  You see if your symptoms match.  Discuss the possibility of Gastrointestinal Beriberi with one of your specialists soon!  Just to rule it out.  I'm very concerned.   I'm linking some PubMed articles.  You see if your symptoms match.   Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/#ref3 From Section 3: "In conclusion, TD limited to the gastrointestinal system may be an overlooked and underdiagnosed cause of the increasingly common gastrointestinal disorders encountered in modern medical settings. Left unattended, it may progress to wet or dry beriberi, most often observed as Wernicke encephalopathy.". . And... Refeeding Syndrome https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK564513/
    • trents
      What are your symptoms? What has brought you to the point where you sought celiac disease testing?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.