Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Anyone Taking Pamine (methscopolamine)?


jmengert

Recommended Posts

jmengert Enthusiast

I have both IBS and celiac disease, and my gastro prescribed Pamine (the generic is Methscopolamine) to help with my IBS. I'm currently taking hyoscyamine, and I seriously doubt it's still helping me (I've been on it for 5 years). I hate trying new medicines because almost all of them make me nauseous, so I'm curious if anyone is on or was on Pamine?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



dizzy Rookie

Hi, I havent tried that one, but have tried the hycomine (spelling?) I think thats the kind that you can dissolve under the tongue, but that didnt work well for me. I had best luck with dicyclomine, I have been taking it now for 16 years, but for the past 5 years I dont need to take it everyday, only when symptoms act up real bad. maybe you could ask your doctor about it? oh, and it was for my IBS...

jmengert Enthusiast

Thanks--I'd never heard of dicyclomine before; I have an appointment next week, so I'll have to ask about that next week.

Oh, the joys of having both Celiac AND IBS

mela14 Enthusiast

Is hyoscomine ..Levsin?

If so, my experience with levsin and Levbid have been that they never really helped the IBS and in addition to making me very dry it gave me terrible migraines.

I started taking Zelnorm for the IBS with bloating and initially it helped but lately I don't feel it working that well.

I've never heard of the other drug.

jmengert Enthusiast

Yeah, hyoscyamine is generic for Levbid, Levsin, some others, too, I think. When I was first put on it, years ago, it helped tremendously. Now, I feel like it doesn't work at all. Maybe I grew immune to it?....

My doctor tried Zelnorm one time, but I have diarrhea prevelant IBS, and it's supposed to make that A LOT worse, so I never took it (and was upset my doctor didn't realize that huge side effect!)

Rikki Tikki Explorer

How do they diagnose both IBS and celiac? I just don't see how they can say both. I was diagnosed with IBS for many years before someone thought to check for celiac.

I am just curious.

Thanks

jmengert Enthusiast

Sally, I think that's a great question, and one I really would like the answer to. As far as my personal experience, I was diagnosed with IBS five years ago but was never tested for Celiac (I had never even heard of celiac disease five years ago). They assumed it was IBS because I immediately felt almost 100% better after they put me on an anti-spasmodic (Levbid); thus, that's how they "diagnosed" me. I felt really good for five years (other than the occasional flare-up, which is common with IBS).

But, I now have been confirmed with celiac disease through blood tests about 2 1/2 months ago--I'm still taking the hyoscyamine because I'm assuming I still have IBS, but who knows? I've heard that celiac disease can lead to IBS, so I may have had undiagnosed celiac disease that gave me IBS. At any rate, I'm seeing my gastro on Tuesday, so I plan to ask him all of these questions; I'll let you know if I find out anything useful.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



jmengert Enthusiast

Sally, as requested here's what I found out from my gastroenterologist about IBS and Celiac. She feels that I still have IBS, even with my celiac disease diagnosis. She said it's quite common for people to have both. Thus, she wants me to keep on my IBS meds (either Levbid, which isn't really doing anything anymore, or Pamine, which I've been nervous to start because I hate taking medicines, especially new ones). So, if you still have symptoms after being gluten-free for awhile, it may be IBS, too, at least according to my doctor. Of course, my experience with IBS is that it comes in spurts and it's certainly easier to control than celiac disease.

I hope this info helps. Please let me know if you have any questions/comments. I hope you feel better soon--it sounds like you've had a lot to deal with in celiac disease, so feel free to drop me a line any time.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      11

      Severe severe mouth pain

    2. - cristiana replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      11

      Severe severe mouth pain

    3. - trents replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      11

      Severe severe mouth pain

    4. - Charlie1946 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      11

      Severe severe mouth pain

    5. - Charlie1946 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      11

      Severe severe mouth pain

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,901
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    kharvey
    Newest Member
    kharvey
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Charlie1946, There are many vitamin deficiencies associated with PCOS and Celiac disease and mental health issues.  The malabsorption of nutrients caused by Celiac can exacerbate PCOS and mental health issues. Vitamin B 3 Niacin (the kind that causes flushing) improves sebaceous hyperplasia and PCOS. (300 mg/day) Vitamin B 1 Thiamine improves dysphagia, and with Omega Threes, Sjogren's, and PCOS.     (300 mg/day) The other B vitamins are needed as well because they all work together like an orchestra.   The fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K, are needed as well.  Low Vitamin D is common in both PCOS and Celiac and depression.   Deficiencies in Niacin Thiamine, Cobalamine B12, Folate B 9, Vitamin C, and Vitamin D can cause mental health issues.   I wish doctors would check for nutritional deficiencies and gastrointestinal issues before prescribing antidepressants.  My mental health issues didn't get better until my vitamin deficiencies were corrected and a gluten free keto/paleo diet adopted.   Though blood tests are not really accurate, you may want to get tested for deficiencies before supplementing, otherwise you'll be measuring the vitamins you've taken and blood tests will show blood levels that are too high. Yes, Thiamine TTFD and the other vitamins are available over-the-counter.  A B Complex with additional Thiamine TTFD and Niacin made a big difference to my health.  I follow a paleo diet, and make sure I get Omega Threes.  I took high dose Vitamin D to correct my deficiency there.   I've run through the mental health gamut if you would like to talk about your issues.  You can personal message us if you would be more comfortable.   Interesting Reading: Nutritional and herbal interventions for polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS): a comprehensive review of dietary approaches, macronutrient impact, and herbal medicine in management https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12049039/
    • cristiana
      Hi @Charlie1946 I am so sorry to hear you are suffering with this problem.   Just a few other thoughts.  I had debilitating anxiety prior to my diagnosis.  I was never admitted to a hospital but thankfully had a lot of support from friends and family, and found a couple of publications contained really helpful advice:  for depression, The Depression Cure: The Six-Step Programme to Beat Depression Without Drugs by Dr Steve Llardi, and for debilitating anxiety, At Last A Life by Paul David.  Both can be ordered online, there is also a website for the latter.  If you are deficient in or have low iron or B12 this can cause or worsen mental health issues.  I am sure my own issues were caused by long-term deficiencies.   If you can get your blood tested, it would be useful.  In the case of iron, make sure you only supplement if you have a deficiency, and levels can be monitored, as too much iron can be dangerous. If you have burning mouth issues, very bad TMJ or neuralgia,  I understand the pain can be managed by the use of a certain class of medication like amitriptyline, which is also used to treat depression.  But there again, it is possible with the correct diet and supplementation these issues might improve? I do hope that you find relief soon. Cristiana
    • trents
      @Charlie1946, as an alternative to milk-based protein shakes, let me suggest whey protein. Whey and casein are the two main proteins found in milk but whey doesn't cause issues like casein can for celiacs. Concerning your question about celiac safe mental health facilities, unfortunately, healthcare facilities in general do not have good reputations for being celiac safe. Most celiacs find that they need to depend on family members to advocate for them diligently or bring in food from the outside. Training of staff is inconsistent and there is the issue of turnover and also cross contamination.
    • Charlie1946
      @knitty kitty are you kidding?  I had no idea about the casein!! No one ever mentioned that to me at all!! I basically live off that milk! I have also wondered if I have Sjorgen's , but I haven't been to the doctor yet. Can you get the TTFD over the counter? I do have dysphasia and I have lysine I just haven't been good about taking it. I am so glad I found this group and all of you with all this helpful information!! I thought I was going crazy!!  I have sebaceous hyperplasia too- is that related to Celiac?  OH , and I wanted to ask if there is a site where I could find information on mental health issues , with celiac safe facilities??
    • Charlie1946
      @trents, Hi, thank you for the reply, I used to be pretty good at taking my vitamins and supplements, because I also have PCOS, I have Barrett's esophagus, it's just too expensive to have it stretched all the time, and I also get kinda panicked when trying to swallow pills because of getting choked a lot before.  I think maybe the thrush made it worse, I just can't figure out why I can't get it to go away 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.