Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Making Bread -- Can I Leave Out Vinegar?


strawberrygm

Recommended Posts

strawberrygm Enthusiast

I stopped at the only health food store within an hour from here the other day and bought 4 items.

Bobs Red Mill Choc Chip Cookies -- we have made these and we like them, although they burnt very quickly on the bottom -- could be b/c I used tin foil to prevent cc from cookie sheet

Bobs Red Mill Pancake Mix

Bobs Red Mill Homemade Bread Mix

Arrowhead Mill Pizza Crust Mix

I want to make the bread today by hand (we dont have a bread maker). It calls for 1tsp cider vinegar. I dont have any. What is it for and can I make the bread without it?

This store did not have any other brands to choose from.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Takala Enthusiast

There are a lot of baking recipes for gluten free calling for cider vinegar. Real apple cider vinegar is made from apples so it will not be sourced from grain, therefore no worries as to possible gluten contamination. Pure rice vinegar would also work. Avoid "cider flavored" vinegars which are grain based and only colored and flavored to taste vaguely like cider. Lemon or lime juice would also work. Organic Balsamic vinegar might work. I think somebody here also used vitamin C dissolved in water.

Vinegar does 2 things. One it acts as a "dough conditioner" to help the gluten free flours break down a little bit and become stickier and act a little bit more like wheat flour. The other thing is it acts as the acid to be added to the baking powder or soda base to make bubbles that expand and create leavening for the baked good.

If you have a recipe that is for a quick bread, you need the vinegar or other acid/sour additive to make the soda work. If you have a recipe that is going to be risen by yeast only, then you might not need it.

munkee41182 Explorer

Hey there, I tried Bob's Bread Mix and I wasn't a fan. However it did make great breadcrumbs though. Any bread mix that you try and you don't like, just toast up the bread and grind it up in your food processor for meatballs, meat loaf, chicken parm, etc. Hope you like the bread mix better than I did. Although I am pretty picky about my breads :DB)

RiceGuy Collaborator

I don't know how the vinegar would react with the gluten-free flours, but even for a quick-bread, vinegar/lemon juice isn't necessary. Neither is baking soda unless the recipe includes dairy or other acidic ingredients. For a quick-bread, baking soda is added to neutralize acidity, typically from dairy. Then the baking powder won't fizzle out too soon. I found that Bob's Red Mill baking powder is the way to go, since it starts to fizz when heated in the oven. Most baking powders (including Rumford) start reacting upon contact with water, and it seems the gluten-free dough doesn't contain the bubbles while being mixed. At least that's my experience.

I agree that a yeast dough should be fine without the vinegar.

Vamonos Rookie
I stopped at the only health food store within an hour from here the other day and bought 4 items.

Bobs Red Mill Choc Chip Cookies -- we have made these and we like them, although they burnt very quickly on the bottom -- could be b/c I used tin foil to prevent cc from cookie sheet

Bobs Red Mill Pancake Mix

Bobs Red Mill Homemade Bread Mix

Arrowhead Mill Pizza Crust Mix

I want to make the bread today by hand (we dont have a bread maker). It calls for 1tsp cider vinegar. I dont have any. What is it for and can I make the bread without it?

This store did not have any other brands to choose from.

How did the bread turn out with out vinegar? I did a quick check of my gluten-free cook books regarding vinegar. You can substitute dough enhancer (available in the health food section) or even substitute lemon juice for the acid the vinegar provides. I can recall the acid is necessary for the chemical interaction. I wouldn't omit the vinegar without substituting. Do you have regular white vinegar? That would also work.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,930
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Mhp
    Newest Member
    Mhp
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      The discovery of the vitamin D receptor in multiple immune cell lineages, such as monocytes, dendritic cells, and activated T cells credits vitamin D with a novel role in modulating immunological functions and its subsequent role in the development or prevention of autoimmune diseases.  The Implication of Vitamin D and Autoimmunity: a Comprehensive Review
    • Wheatwacked
      Definitely get vitamin D 25(OH)D.  Celiac Disease causes vitamin D deficiency and one of the functions of vitamin D is modulating the genes.  While we can survive with low vitamin D as an adaptation to living in a seasonal environment, the homeostasis is 200 nmol/L.  Vitamin D Receptors are found in nearly every cell with a nucleus,while the highest concentrations are in tissues like the intestine, kidney, parathyroid, and bone.  A cellular communication system, if you will. The vitamin D receptor: contemporary genomic approaches reveal new basic and translational insights  Possible Root Causes of Histamine Intolerance. "Low levels of certain nutrients like copper, Vitamins A, B6, and C can lead to histamine build up along with excess or deficient levels of iron. Iodine also plays a crucial role in histamine regulation."  
    • AnnaNZ
      I forgot to mention my suspicion of the high amount of glyphosate allowed to be used on wheat in USA and NZ and Australia. My weight was 69kg mid-2023, I went down to 60kg in March 2024 and now hover around 63kg (just after winter here in NZ) - wheat-free and very low alcohol consumption.
    • AnnaNZ
      Hi Jess Thanks so much for your response and apologies for the long delay in answering. I think I must have been waiting for something to happen before I replied and unfortunately it fell off the radar... I have had an upper endoscopy and colonoscopy in the meantime (which revealed 'minor' issues only). Yes I do think histamine intolerance is one of the problems. I have been lowering my histamine intake and feeling a lot better. And I do think it is the liver which is giving the pain. I am currently taking zinc (I have had three low zinc tests now), magnesium, B complex, vitamin E and a calcium/Vitamin C mix. I consciously think about getting vitamin D outside. (Maybe I should have my vitamin D re-tested now...) I am still 100% gluten-free. My current thoughts on the cause of the problems is some, if not all, of the following: Genetically low zinc uptake, lack of vitamin D, wine drinking (alcohol/sulphites), covid, immune depletion, gastroparesis, dysbiosis, leaky gut, inability to process certain foods I am so much better than late 2023 so feel very positive 🙂    
    • lehum
      Hi and thank you very much for your detailed response! I am so glad that the protocol worked so well for you and helped you to get your health back on track. I've heard of it helping other people too. One question I have is how did you maintain your weight on this diet? I really rely on nuts and rice to keep me at a steady weight because I tend to lose weight quickly and am having a hard time envisioning how to make it work, especially when not being able to eat things like nuts and avocados. In case you have any input, woud be great to hear it! Friendly greetings.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.