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Gluten Challenge Question...


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Hi Everyone,

I ended up writing a very long post October 12th. However, in case someone doesn't want to sift through the entire post, one thing I really want to know is:

If someone who doesn't have a problem with gluten (he/she wasn't sure if he/she did or not) and didn


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Hi Everyone,

I ended up writing a very long post October 12th. However, in case someone doesn't want to sift through the entire post, one thing I really want to know is:

If someone who doesn't have a problem with gluten (he/she wasn't sure if he/she did or not) and didn

LoveLife Rookie

Hi!

Thanks for the response. I did have testing done. This is what I had:

My results from Dec. 07 were:

t-Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA (result 1: they have it as 0

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My personal opinion about someone without a gluten intolerance stopping gluten and then re-introducing it is that they woulnt have the same reaction as someone who is celiac or gluten intolerant. They may have a bit of an upset stomach or other GI discomforts, but overall, I don't think it would effect thier complete physical/even emotional well-being the way it would for someone who is truly intolerant. The reaction probably wouldnt last as long either....

I know if I eat gluten it could take anywhere from a few days to a couple weeks for me to get back on track....it also depends on how much... I would think someone who is tolerant wouldn't have a reaction that long. i thnk that would be the differance....

ShayFL Enthusiast

Sometimes the diet and challenge yield the only answer. You have yours.

There are also varying reasons to intolerance. In your vegetarian friend example, it could be that the reason he got so violently ill is that with being vegetarian for so long his stomach does not produce enough HCL (acid) to digest meat. He would have to start out eating only a bit or two and build up slowly over time so his body could start producing HCL again. I know the pain of low HCL and eating meat. Awful!! I was like him.....vegetarian and could not tolerate meat. I eat a meat diet now with no problems. I took HCL tabs for a few months and weened off of them so that my body could re-learn how to digest proteins properly.

Some people become vegetarian because they say meat no longer agrees with them. They feel better vegetarian and erroneously assume that vegetarian is a BETTER diet. Not true. They had a defective stomach before vegetarian. Instead of fixing the problem, they found a crutch. Later when they try meat again, they still react badly because the problem was never addressed.

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Sometimes the diet and challenge yield the only answer. You have yours.

There are also varying reasons to intolerance. In your vegetarian friend example, it could be that the reason he got so violently ill is that with being vegetarian for so long his stomach does not produce enough HCL (acid) to digest meat. He would have to start out eating only a bit or two and build up slowly over time so his body could start producing HCL again. I know the pain of low HCL and eating meat. Awful!! I was like him.....vegetarian and could not tolerate meat. I eat a meat diet now with no problems. I took HCL tabs for a few months and weened off of them so that my body could re-learn how to digest proteins properly.

Some people become vegetarian because they say meat no longer agrees with them. They feel better vegetarian and erroneously assume that vegetarian is a BETTER diet. Not true. They had a defective stomach before vegetarian. Instead of fixing the problem, they found a crutch. Later when they try meat again, they still react badly because the problem was never addressed.

I think this is the point my doctor was trying to make with gluten. He doesnt think that gluten is the problem but an underlying problem....but he couldnt give me any examples of that could be. <_< All I know is gluten is definitly not good for me and the results are clear on the the gluten-free diet...

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