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I just got diagnosed with Celiac, and I finally found a "List" of gluten-free foods, and know to check labels. right now I am kind of overwhelmed, but it should get easier, right?? Anyway, I had an upper endoscopy and it showed mild esophogitis( I had ulcers before that are now erosions) and I am very fatigued and I have oral thrush. Is the thrush part of this disease? Someone please help! Thanks


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Thrush is due to an overgrowth of the Candida Albicans yeast. It may or may not be related. But you need to treat it. You will need to eat a NO SUGAR diet for awhile. Sugar feeds them. No honey. Only a bit of fruit like berries that are low sugar till it is under control. No refined carbs like rice flour, etc. Simple foods: Meats, Eggs, Veggies, Low sugar fruits, nuts & seeds, oils and spices. Lots of water.

Caprylic Acid will kill the yeast in the intestines. Swishing the mouth with colloidal silver and spitting out. Then 2 drops of oregano oil under the tongue. Will help.

Google Candida + alternative treatment and you will find many helpful sites.

Hope it clears up soon.

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I just got diagnosed with Celiac, and I finally found a "List" of gluten-free foods, and know to check labels. right now I am kind of overwhelmed, but it should get easier, right?? Anyway, I had an upper endoscopy and it showed mild esophogitis( I had ulcers before that are now erosions) and I am very fatigued and I have oral thrush. Is the thrush part of this disease? Someone please help! Thanks

Yes there a links between Candida and Celiac Disease. Alot of doctors don't like to admit it for whatever reason. If you buy some virgin coconut oil ( make sure its virgin) it will help get the yeast under control. It has Caprylic acid, lauric acid and Capric acid in it. It breaks the coating down on the outside of the yeast that allows it to survive. Then your bodies normal acids will destory it.

Cut out alot of sugars. Go with fruit because it is readily absorbed and doesnt really have to be converted before it is used by the body. Don't worry about the oil it is actually good for your body and cholesterol levels. Once again make sure it is virgin coconut oil. Take a teaspoon a day at first then build up by a teaspoon a day until u are at 3-4 table spoons a day.

They yeast can "die off " fast if you use too much. This can cause more symptoms because the toxins from the yeast dying are being absorbed back into your body. Just do it slowly and watch the sugar and you will slowly see improvements.

My doctor said I didn't have Candida. I know that I do. It can give you alot of the same symptoms as Celiac Disease because the protein chains are very similar. My Breath got really bad when I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease. Along with major aches and pains. Since I started the virgin coconut oil, I am slowly feeling a little better. It took a long time to feel this way so it's gong to be slow to heal. Good luck. -Ted

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We can talk about our personal experiences, but I always think it wise find information from many sources and then to consult a medical doctor.

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We can talk about our personal experiences, but I always think it wise find information from many sources and then to consult a medical doctor.

Well I use to think that to. Until it took them 9 months to diagnose me. You have to trust what your body is telling you. If I had listened to the doctors, I still wouldn't be diagnosed with Celiac Disease. They wanted me to believe for 7 months that it was just anxiety. Here take some Paxil and Prozac and you will be fine. That's why they call it "Practicing" medicine. Doctors make mistakes and it's a known fact that they don't like to diagnose Celiac disease because they can't write you all kinds of prescriptions. I'm in no way saying don't go to the doctors. I am saying listen and trust what your body is telling you. There are also natural things that can help you heal. Everything isn't cured with a pill.

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I certainly understand where you're coming from. Most of us here have experienced the frustration you have. Celiac takes and average 11 years to diagnose.

We DO need to listen to our bodies and TEACH our doctors. But we must be careful not to play doctors on the internet, unless of course, we are one. ;)

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and then there's Dr. Baker, very wise.


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and then there's Dr. Baker, very wise.

My kid sarcastic? nahhh :rolleyes: Hello Goose ;)

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Well I use to think that to. Until it took them 9 months to diagnose me. You have to trust what your body is telling you. If I had listened to the doctors, I still wouldn't be diagnosed with Celiac Disease. They wanted me to believe for 7 months that it was just anxiety. Here take some Paxil and Prozac and you will be fine. That's why they call it "Practicing" medicine. Doctors make mistakes and it's a known fact that they don't like to diagnose Celiac disease because they can't write you all kinds of prescriptions. I'm in no way saying don't go to the doctors. I am saying listen and trust what your body is telling you. There are also natural things that can help you heal. Everything isn't cured with a pill.

Exactly how I feel. With all of these auto-immune disorders popping up everywhere with no cure it's amazing to me how ill informed most doctors are. They think everything is in your head. However, I am convinced that someday we'll have a cure for all of these problems. Unfortunately right now, it's a cash cow for the drug companies as well as the mainstream medical establishment.

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