Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Gluten Free Sandwich Restaurant/cross Contamination Issues


katrinacara

Recommended Posts

katrinacara Rookie

I'm thinking about opening a sandwich restaurant sort of like panera bread that has gluten free bread on the menu. But I would also have breads that contain gluten for non-celiacs. I do plan on making all the bread from scratch and I'm concerned if it would ever really work with the risk of cross contamination.

I'm thinking about finding a building that has a large kitchen and having one side dedicated to gluten free baking. There would be seperate toasters, utensils, sandwich baskets, meats and cheeses and there would be one person who would only assembles gluten free sandwiches.

Even with all of this...someone could still make a mistake.

I'm not concerned about losing customers as much as I am about someone having a reaction. I want this to be a place I can eat and not be concerned.

Would you eat at a sandwich restaurant that has some risk of cross contamination and do you have any other suggestions of ways that it can be more gluten proof?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



The Fluffy Assassin Enthusiast
I'm thinking about opening a sandwich restaurant sort of like panera bread that has gluten free bread on the menu. But I would also have breads that contain gluten for non-celiacs. I do plan on making all the bread from scratch and I'm concerned if it would ever really work with the risk of cross contamination.

I'm thinking about finding a building that has a large kitchen and having one side dedicated to gluten free baking. There would be seperate toasters, utensils, sandwich baskets, meats and cheeses and there would be one person who would only assembles gluten free sandwiches.

Even with all of this...someone could still make a mistake.

I'm not concerned about losing customers as much as I am about someone having a reaction. I want this to be a place I can eat and not be concerned.

Would you eat at a sandwich restaurant that has some risk of cross contamination and do you have any other suggestions of ways that it can be more gluten proof?

You could serve bread containing gluten, but if you're actually baking it from scratch on the premises, there would be flour in the air and cross-contamination would be absolutely certain. I think a more worthy and even fun goal would be to set up a gluten-free sandwich shop where nobody could tell that it's gluten-free. I find Gluten Free Pantry's Beth's All Purpose Baking Flour to be all but indistinguishable from regular baking flour. I don't know if other flours have gluten-free equivalents, as I simply gave up bread in favor of soft corn tortillas. But it would be worth a shot. The other thing, though; even if you completely glassed off the gluten part of the kitchen, with totally separate ventilation... how would you get the food out without flour dust coming with it, and what would be the point anyway?

TiffLuvsBread Rookie

What a super idea! Please open one in St Louis!

I agree that all bread should be gluten-free, and you could have a really cute name about it, and people who are Celiac will LOVE you and be incredibly loyal, and others who don't know much about it will just think you are health food, organic, what have you, and they will want to try your sandwiches - and surely they will be delicious, so they will come back.

Restaurants that serve gluten-free items typically have it brought in separate rather than making it on the premises. I think they've figured out how hard it would be to actually bake gluten-free in a facility that also bakes with gluten. Probably best to not reinvent the wheel, but honestly I think your shop sounds like a superb idea and I really think you should go for it if you think it's a good idea. As long as you have a market for it (and again, your market isn't JUST Celiacs and gluten-intolerant people, it's those that think it's a "healthy sandwich" place). You could also serve desserts like really yummy gluten-free chocolate chip cookies, rice krispy treats of all varieties, chocolate covered strawberries perhaps, and you could serve some delicious salads and soups, I think it's great. Do it 100% gluten-free and watch the business come pouring in.

Good luck!!! :DB)

TiffLuvsBread Rookie

oh my gosh and personal pizzas!

I don't charge for my ideas.

Today, apparently.

:o

Juliebove Rising Star

Would not work if you were baking it all there. Wheat (or other) flour would get in the air. Best to do all gluten-free.

lpellegr Collaborator

Another option would be to not bake gluten-free bread there, but find some that will work for individual servings - rolls or slices that are say, frozen in ones or twos, and those can be taken out and microwaved in a dedicated oven for gluten-free customers. I have to say though, that I won't feel safe eating anything that comes from a place where wheat bread is made because there will always be flour in the air and traces on the counters. I stay away from Panera.

hannahp57 Contributor

I would eat there if i was within driving distance :P mmm...a hot ham and cheese sandwich on homemade bread that i didnt bake or get angry at!!! how fabulous would that be?!

i think you could do all gluten free to be safe but they better be yummy for gluten eaters to pay extra for a sandwich or personal pizza. but it is definitely do-able


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



earthtoneNJ Rookie

If you want to offer gluten bread, maybe you can do what chain "bakeries" do - don't bake scratch gluten bread on premises, but bring in fresh or frozen dough to bake daily. The cc would be a lot more manageable if gluten wasn't in airborne form, and you could still say it's baked on premises.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Anne G posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      0

      celiac disease and braces

    2. - trents replied to HAUS's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Sainsbury's Free From White Sliced Bread - Now Egg Free - Completely Ruined It

    3. - HAUS posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      Sainsbury's Free From White Sliced Bread - Now Egg Free - Completely Ruined It

    4. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      My only proof

    5. - Rejoicephd commented on Jefferson Adams's article in Gluten-Free Cooking
      1

      Your Complete Gluten-Free Thanksgiving Plan: Recipes, Tips & Holiday Favorites


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,434
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Malia Ana
    Newest Member
    Malia Ana
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Anne G
      Hello, My 17 yr old daughter was diagnosed with celiac disease 2 yrs ago. She does not have gum disease and no history of cavities. Her dentist is recommending braces for her lower teeth but I read it may worsen gum recession or possibly increase cavity risk which I know are already issues for patients with celiac. Has anyone here had braces and did it cause any problems or issues with gum recession?  Her dentist seemed oblivious that celiac patients are at higher risk of gum disease /cavities. Her bottom teeth are crooked but are pretty hidden even when she smiles. Thank you!!
    • trents
      This is a common experience across the board with various brands of gluten-free bread products. Prices go up, size goes down. Removal of the egg component may be for the purpose of cost-cutting related to bird flu supply shortages or it may be catering to those with egg allergy/sensitivity, fairly common in the celiac community.
    • HAUS
      Living with Coeliac Disease since birth, Bread has always been an issue, never too nice, small slices and always overpriced, But Sainsbury's Free From White Sliced Bread seemed to me to be an exception with it's large uniform 12 x 12cm slices that had the bounce, texture and taste of white bread even after toasting with no issue that it was also Milk Free. Unfortunately Sainsbury's have changed the recipe and have made it 'Egg Free' too and it has lost everything that made the original loaf so unique. Now the loaf is unevenly risen with 8 x 8cm slices at best, having lost it's bounce with the texture dense and cake like after toasting resembling nothing like White Bread anymore. Unsure as to why they have had to make it 'Egg Free' as the price is the same at £1.90 a loaf. Anyone else experiencing the same issue with it? - also any recommendations for White Bread that isn't prescription? / Tesco's / Asda's are ok but Sainsbury's was superior.
    • Mari
      Years  ago a friend and I drove north into Canada hoping to find a ski resort open in late spring,We were in my VW and found a small ski area near a small town and started up this gravelled road up a mountain. We  got about halfway up and got stuck in the mud. We tried everything we could think of but an hour later we were still stuck. Finally a pickup came down the road, laughed at our situation, then pulled the VW free of the mud. We followed him back to the ski area where where he started up the rope ski lift and we had an enjoyable hour of skiing and gave us a shot of aquavit  before we left.It was a great rescue.  In some ways this reminds me of your situation. You are waiting for a rescue and you have chosen medical practitioners to do it now or as soon as possible. As you have found out the med. experts have not learned how to help you. You face years of continuing to feel horrible, frustrated searching for your rescuer to save you. You can break away from from this pattern of thinking and you have begun breaking  away by using some herbs and supplements from doTerra. Now you can start trying some of the suggestions thatother Celiacs have written to your original posts.  You live with other people who eat gluten foods. Cross contamination is very possible. Are you sure that their food is completely separate from their food. It  is not only the gluten grains you need to avoid (wheat, barley, rye) but possibly oats, cows milk also. Whenever you fall back into that angry and frustrated way of thinking get up and walk around for a whild. You will learn ways to break that way of thinking about your problems.  Best wishes for your future. May you enjpy a better life.  
    • marion wheaton
      Thanks for responding. I researched further and Lindt Lindor chocolate balls do contain barely malt powder which contains gluten. I was surprised at all of the conflicting information I found when I checked online.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.