Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Symptoms


Oggie

Recommended Posts

Oggie Newbie

I was recently diagnosed with Celiac in Feb. 09 after many negative tests. I've changed my diet completely (very difficult) and am fairly certain I'm no longer ingesting gluten. Like many others I've made numerous mistakes early on which had disastrous results everytime. Unfortunately my symptoms have continued to rear their ugly head usually 1 time every two to three weeks which results in ER trips to control the violent vomiting and abdominal pain that occurs with these episodes. Recently I had three of these attacks in a one week period. I've read alot on this forum and have experienced most of the symptoms described by others, but I have not seen anyone describe the violent vomiting of bile during their attacks. Is relentless vomiting and dry heaving something anyone else experiences with this? I also have recently been diagnosed with intolerances to casein, soy, and have been told to keep intake of sugar to a minimum to try and correct some inbalances in my digestive system. I've already lost 115 lbs. because of this (from 295 down to 180 and still dropping weight). They removed my Gall Bladder thinking that was the problem about a year ago so I also have constant diarrhea and have to be very careful with food items with high amounts of fat otherwise that also makes me very ill. Basically, I am having a hard time maintaining my mental state due to this. It's been about a year now and while the attacks have gotten less frequent I live in constant fear of the next. I've had 50+ trips to the hospital, and have spent 35+ days admitted while they try to figure out what's wrong (they never find anything) been subjected to every test available. They load me up with narcotics to control the pain which just make me more tired, send me home with the same drugs and hope for the best. This is not working for me. While the pain meds will give me more time before having to return to the ER, this is no way to live. So I will now try to cut out the other food items I've been told to stay away from, but at the same time I don't know what to eat to maintain a nutritional balance. This illness is wearing on me tremendously, has affected my ability to work (I'm lucky to feel well enough to work even 2-3 days a week right now), is causing financial hardships and my kids are to used to seeing me ill all the time. I can't stand thinking this will be their memory of me being sick all the time and unable to play with them. Mentally and Emotionally I'm exhausted. Can anyone else out there relate to my story, and if so, do you have any ideas or suggestions as to where or what I should do next. I'm committed to the diet changes, I just don't know what to eat anymore. Outside of fruits and vegetables and rice products, it seems like there isn't anything else safe to eat. Thanks for any advice you can offer me.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



txplowgirl Enthusiast

Hi Oggie,

I am so sorry you are feeling so bad.

I don't have the vomiting you do but every once in a great while when I eat something i'm not supposed to.

You probably already know this if so just ignore.

My questions are. Have you checked your meds for gluten, your shampoos, your makeup, lotions?

In my opinion sounds like you are getting cross contamination possibly. With children in the house I wouldn't be suprised. Do you cook gluten foods then your gluten free foods? They need to be cooked seperately, or your foods first. Teflon pans, if they have scratches can have gluten in them, DH if he consumes gluten and he dosen't brush his teeth and he kisses you can gluten you.

You may have become what we call super sensitive where just a crumb can get you. Do you eat out a lot? Lots of cross contamination there. Do you eat oats a lot? Cross contamination there due to them being in a facillity that processes wheat. Your condiments like butter, jellys, mayo, etc may have crumbs in them. Also you might have developed more food intollerances. Maybe to the nightshade vegetables like tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant, etc. Maybe ALL dairy.

You might want to try the Specific Carbohydrate Diet or the Candida diet. Plus maybe keeping a food diary would help.

I hope some of this helps and you get to feeling better soon.

no-more-muffins Apprentice

Wow, it sounds like things have been really rough for you! I don't have too many answers but I did think that perhaps you have microscopic colitis. The constant diarrhea makes me wonder about that. There is a wonderful support board for MC and you could ask questions about that over there. Many of them use a medication called Entecort to help with their diarrhea. It is fairly common for celiacs to have MC as well. Most people with MC are intolerant to gluten, many to soy and casein. Some have other intolerances such as corn or other things. I really recommend going over there and introducting yourself. Maybe they will have some advice for you.

Open Original Shared Link

Oggie Newbie

Thank you for your response, part of the difficulty is I do have separate cookware and have checked all those misc. items for gluten. I keep separate condiments and such which are all labeled just for me(all my food is labeled) and I never eat out anymore, I find it to be quite high risk even in the establishments advertising gluten free menus. I do believe I might be super sensitive and actually made an appointment to be tested for further food allergies/intolerances for early this next week. Hopefully something will show up to help answer this mystery. Thanks Again.

quote name='txplowgirl' date='Sep 19 2009, 01:20 PM' post='563170']

Hi Oggie,

I am so sorry you are feeling so bad.

I don't have the vomiting you do but every once in a great while when I eat something i'm not supposed to.

You probably already know this if so just ignore.

My questions are. Have you checked your meds for gluten, your shampoos, your makeup, lotions?

In my opinion sounds like you are getting cross contamination possibly. With children in the house I wouldn't be suprised. Do you cook gluten foods then your gluten free foods? They need to be cooked seperately, or your foods first. Teflon pans, if they have scratches can have gluten in them, DH if he consumes gluten and he dosen't brush his teeth and he kisses you can gluten you.

You may have become what we call super sensitive where just a crumb can get you. Do you eat out a lot? Lots of cross contamination there. Do you eat oats a lot? Cross contamination there due to them being in a facillity that processes wheat. Your condiments like butter, jellys, mayo, etc may have crumbs in them. Also you might have developed more food intollerances. Maybe to the nightshade vegetables like tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant, etc. Maybe ALL dairy.

You might want to try the Specific Carbohydrate Diet or the Candida diet. Plus maybe keeping a food diary would help.

I hope some of this helps and you get to feeling better soon.

Oggie Newbie

Thanks for the info, I will definitely check into that.

Wow, it sounds like things have been really rough for you! I don't have too many answers but I did think that perhaps you have microscopic colitis. The constant diarrhea makes me wonder about that. There is a wonderful support board for MC and you could ask questions about that over there. Many of them use a medication called Entecort to help with their diarrhea. It is fairly common for celiacs to have MC as well. Most people with MC are intolerant to gluten, many to soy and casein. Some have other intolerances such as corn or other things. I really recommend going over there and introducting yourself. Maybe they will have some advice for you.

Open Original Shared Link

Roda Rising Star

Just a thought. Could you be experiencing problems with too much excretion of bile into the small intestines? There are medications (bile acid binding agents) that can help control the diarrhea. Have they done any test to see if you have any problem with the biliary system(excluding the gallbladder since you had it removed) like an ERCP or MRCP?

here are some links to the tests:

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,327
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    dnamutant
    Newest Member
    dnamutant
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.