Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Enterolab Results, A Bit Confused On The Gene Info


kayo

Recommended Posts

kayo Explorer

Hi all,

I got my test results from Enterolab and would love to hear your take on the gene info which I'm finding a bit hard to understand. I think this means I'm negative for celiac but positive for gluten intolerance? If so that will be a relief. I was really worried about the celiac possibility. (I already have RA)

Also I'm shocked at the soy results. I had no idea I had issues with soy. :o I just did the test to be comprehensive. Since I'm lactose intolerant I use soymilk in everything. I just got to the point where I have vetted all my food for gluten and now I have to start all over again and check for soy. I'm so deflated! and exhausted!

At the same time I'm glad to see the tests do show a gluten insensitivity. If I had gone by the one (wrong) blood test result (negative) my doc took I'd be eating gluten today. I'm glad I stuck with the gluten free diet.

Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA: 14 Units

Fecal Anti-tissue Transglutaminase IgA: 5 Units

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score: Less than 300 Units

Fecal Anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA: 9 Units

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1: 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2: 0402

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,4 (Subtype 5,4)

Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA: 7 Units

Fecal Anti-saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA: 5 Units

Fecal Anti-soy IgA: 18 Units

Thank you :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



sunnybabi1986 Contributor

I think you're right..it looks like you DO have a gluten sensitivity, hence the elevated antigliadin levels. However, you don't carry the celiac gene and your Anti-tissue Transglutaminase levels are NOT elevated, meaning you do not have celiac. (as far as I understand!)

Isn't that awful to be lactose intolerant and have a sensitivity to soy? I suspect I have a problem with soy, I'll be getting tested in the next few months hopefully. I'm also lactose intolerant, but I can tolerate a single serving of dairy a day, thankfully!

Hope you feel better soon, now that you know soy is a problem!

Janie

ksymonds84 Enthusiast

The elimination of soy will get easier. I was overwhelmed at first too but once I removed soy, I finally felt better! I have eliminated ALL soy such as soybean oil, soy lecithin anything soy! Sprectrum makes a good canola mayonnaise and Earth Balance has an awesome soy free butter spread that you can find at most health food stores now. I make my own salad dressings ect. You will find some info on the web that those with an allergy to soy can do soy lecithin and soybean oil but I am thinking that doesn't hold true to an intolerance. I get hives on my face with anything that has soybean oil. I'm hoping I can tolerate soy lecithin in the future (doesn't contain the soy protein) so that I can add some gluten free chocolate back in. Right now I do the enjoy life soyfree, dairyfree, & gluten free chocolate chips and candy bars, they are pretty good.

I am also lactose intolerant but can handle a little butter and hard cheeses as long as I don't over do it in one sitting.

I don't know much about gluten sensitive genes but others will help with that. Glad you have answers that will help you on the road to healing!

kayo Explorer

Thank you both for your responses - they mean a lot to me. It's nice to have 'company'!

It's funny, I was fully prepared for gluten intolerance or celiac results but not the soy intolerance. If I remember correctly the soy test was lumped in with eggs and yeast. I half expected to have an intolerance to yeast but it came back negative. Very glad I'm also negative on eggs.

This has thrown me for a loop. It does make sense though and I'm glad to have some answers which will help me get better.

I feel like I just made it through my gluten mourning period and wham! another food friend has died. Not ready for another wake and funeral!

Thanks for the tips on mayo and earth balance. It seemed like everything I pulled out of my fridge and cupboards last night had soy in it. Soybean oil and soy lecithin seem as prevalent in foods as much as gluten!

:blink:

kayo Explorer

One more question. I have seen people describe themselves in posts or in their sigs by their gene info. Sometimes I see people say double or single DQ#. How do I transcribe the results below? Would I be a DQ1 or a DQ1,4? I'm not sure what the 1,4 (5,4) numbers mean, nor do I know what 501 and 402 refer to. I need a science degree!

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1: 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2: 0402

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,4 (Subtype 5,4)

Thanks again :)

ksymonds84 Enthusiast
One more question. I have seen people describe themselves in posts or in their sigs by their gene info. Sometimes I see people say double or single DQ#. How do I transcribe the results below? Would I be a DQ1 or a DQ1,4? I'm not sure what the 1,4 (5,4) numbers mean, nor do I know what 501 and 402 refer to. I need a science degree!

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1: 0501

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2: 0402

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 1,4 (Subtype 5,4)

Thanks again :)

I'm not a scientist either but you would describe yourself as DQ 5 & DQ 4 you carry a single copy of each. If you had HLA-DQ 1,1 then you would carry a double copy. You get a gene from each parent. For me I have two celiac genes so both my parents have a celiac gene. Don't know which one is 2 or 8 since they won't get it checked out but when they complain about my eating habits, I say, hey you each gave me one! :D I'll leave the Allele to someone else smarter!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,329
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    klkarius
    Newest Member
    klkarius
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.