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Glucose Syrup (wheat)?


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Because a lot more wheat than corn is grown in these parts, almost all our candy is sweetened with the glucose syrup derived from wheat. At one point I tried some Pascal mints which had this labelling and didn't react well. Should this always be considered an unsafe product? I have avoided it except for those mints for the past two years. And I am not a super sensitive :o I need a candy fix!!


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Maggie Mermaid Apprentice

I also had a reaction to some chocolate mints sweetened with glucose derived from wheat. I think it was made in the UK. Apparently I am more sensitive than I thought. I accidentally glutened myself the 2nd time because I was careless and did not read the label. The only thing I can recommend is read ALL the labels for any chocolate mints. I found one brand that uses sugar but I'm in the US & it's a house brand so that's not much help for you. Maybe a chocolate mint bar might not contain wheat glucose or a Belgium brand. Good luck!

mushroom Proficient

So I'm not the only one who reacts to it! When I mentioned mints, they were regular mints, and it's not just mints, but ALL candy that contains it. Guess I will have to join the Coeliac Society here and find out what folks do here for candy, or if they just abstain :unsure::blink: I think I must have looked at every candy made by every manufacturer in New Zealand, Australia, U.K. I have found some gluten free marshmallows; the first came from China and upset my tummy (not a glutening) so I stopped buying them post haste. But have found some others....

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If it's wheat, I'm not touching it with someone elses digestive track. :unsure:

Maggie Mermaid Apprentice
So I'm not the only one who reacts to it! When I mentioned mints, they were regular mints, and it's not just mints, but ALL candy that contains it. Guess I will have to join the Coeliac Society here and find out what folks do here for candy, or if they just abstain :unsure::blink: I think I must have looked at every candy made by every manufacturer in New Zealand, Australia, U.K. I have found some gluten free marshmallows; the first came from China and upset my tummy (not a glutening) so I stopped buying them post haste. But have found some others....

Well, there must be a candy or sweet that made with sugar, honey or maple syrup made in NZ or Australia, or UK. Cannot begin to imagine abstaining! :( Seems that most of the chocolate bars made in Switzerland or Belgium seem to be made from sugar (so far) and semi-sweet chocolate bits for chocolate chip cookes are also made with sugar, at least in the US. I've resorted to eating those out of hand for a chocolate craving.

I haven't found a gluten-free marshmallow that sounds appetizing. The health food store had a really expensive one made using rice syrup but I haven't tried it yet. There are recipes for homemade marshmallows if you are adventurous in cooking.

On a side note, I did notice (before I started avoiding wheat) that certain food colorings (red in particular) give me migraines. There used to be a hard candy red and white swirled mint with a pink center that used to really tear up my stomach. Gave those up right quick when I made the correlation!

I've been very careful about using Chinese food products due to what's been in the news.

ciavyn Contributor

Do y'all not have Hershey's?? Ghiardelli's semisweet? Have you checked into jolly ranchers? Luden's cherry cough drops (I'll never believe these are anything but candy) are safe. Try to get candies from the US mabye? Order online? - you might be safer, as I've yet to see too many candies with wheat in them, and I live next to Hershey, PA, so I've got LOTS of experience with that! ;)

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Lisa Mentor

Is glucose one of those ingredients that is sooo processeed, that it's rendered gluten free (or safe enough to consume)? I vaguely, recall IrishDave posting information regarding that.

Running out, but will check later.

mushroom Proficient
Is glucose one of those ingredients that is sooo processeed, that it's rendered gluten free (or safe enough to consume)? I vaguely, recall IrishDave posting information regarding that.

Running out, but will check later.

That was my vague recollection too, Lisa, which is why I posed the question. But I did have a slight "glutened" reaction to the mints...

Lisa Mentor
That was my vague recollection too, Lisa, which is why I posed the question. But I did have a slight "glutened" reaction to the mints...

Dave has some great stuff on his personal profile page. Let's go check it out. ;)

The answer is here somewhere....I promise:

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wheat-based glucose syrups

Based on the FDA proposed gluten-free labeling regulation a product can be derived from a gluten-containing grain such as wheat based glucose syrup and be labeled gluten-free yet the ingredients could say glucose syrup (wheat) provided it is under 20 parts per million (ppm). This will be very confusing for patients as we teach them to avoid wheat and yet a product like glucose syrup may have no or very little residual gluten and be labeled gluten free.”

Now there ya go, but this is a US FDA regulation. Not sure about Australia/New Zealand, but if I recall correctly, are there not stricter guidelines pertaining to a product listed as "gluten free"?

mushroom Proficient
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wheat-based glucose syrups

Based on the FDA proposed gluten-free labeling regulation a product can be derived from a gluten-containing grain such as wheat based glucose syrup and be labeled gluten-free yet the ingredients could say glucose syrup (wheat) provided it is under 20 parts per million (ppm). This will be very confusing for patients as we teach them to avoid wheat and yet a product like glucose syrup may have no or very little residual gluten and be labeled gluten free.”

Now there ya go, but this is a US FDA regulation. Not sure about Australia/New Zealand, but if I recall correctly, are there not stricter guidelines pertaining to a product listed as "gluten free"?

Thanks so much, Lisa. I went on the Coeliac New Zealand website (haven't been there before :rolleyes::huh: ) and found the following statement:

"Standard 1.2.8 Claims in relation to gluten content of food

A claim to the effect that a food is gluten free must not be made in relation to a food unless the food contains no

(a) detectable gluten; and

(B) no –

(i) oats or their products; or

(ii) cereals containing gluten that have been malted, or their products"

Of course, none of the candy I have been looking at states it is gluten free :P . but they did have a listing there of what is supposed to be gluten free, and Pascall Spearmint Imperials, which is what I think I bought?? was on the list.

Oh well, I guess I will do another test. I have been allowing the Jaffas, little chocolate balls covered with orange (like a spherical M&M) into my capucchinos without ill effect, and they were on the list. Mebbe things are looking up. Whilst on the site I found some other restaurants not on any other list I've found which I might try too :D :D It took me only two years to get there. Of course,, they say I am not eligible to join because I don't have a diagnosis :rolleyes:

Lisa Mentor
. Of course,, they say I am not eligible to join because I don't have a diagnosis :rolleyes:

HOGWASH! Join anyway. B)

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So I'm not the only one who reacts to it! When I mentioned mints, they were regular mints, and it's not just mints, but ALL candy that contains it. Guess I will have to join the Coeliac Society here and find out what folks do here for candy, or if they just abstain :unsure::blink: I think I must have looked at every candy made by every manufacturer in New Zealand, Australia, U.K. I have found some gluten free marshmallows; the first came from China and upset my tummy (not a glutening) so I stopped buying them post haste. But have found some others....

Nope---you're not the only one. One of the WORST reactions to gluten in my first 2 years being gluten-free was to an energy drink sweetened with wheat glucose syrup---wow! It was fierce and terrible. I know that Wheat Glucose Syrup apparently has no gluten, but not every Celiac can ingest it safely.

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