Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Weight Loss


gfreemomthecook

Recommended Posts

gfreemomthecook Newbie

This is my first time ever writing anything but an email on the internet! I think I am desperate and I hope someone out there can help me understand my son's situation better. We finally have diagnosis (positive for Celiac 6 weeks ago) and he is still losing weight on the gluten free diet. Is that common? He also has mercury toxicity that is being chelated with IV therapy with our naturepath. He was a bit better, then really weak and breathless again today. Do you recover over time with good days and bad days, or should he not be experiencing any backwards steps? I want to remain upbeat and hopeful, but I think I am scared by his weight loss and his inability to be back into life. Any advice from experience? Thanks!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ahorsesoul Enthusiast

Just how gluten free is his diet? Have you checked all his medications, his toothpaste, shampoo and everything he eats and drinks. Are you making sure his food is cooked in gluten free pans, doesn't use a toaster that has had glutened bread in it? Does he have his own peanut butter and jelly or is he getting contaminated with other gluten food? Is his food fixed with a gluten free bread board and plastic ware? Does he cheat at school (if school age)? Is he off dairy and soy until his intestines heal? Are you keeping a food/symptom journal to see if he had other food sensitivities?

My dd was having problems and I thought she was cheating. Then I found out the root beer she was drinking had gluten in it. Who knew? Why would anyone put gluten in root beer. Never thought. So it hides in funny places you wouldn't even thing to look.

YoloGx Rookie

This is my first time ever writing anything but an email on the internet! I think I am desperate and I hope someone out there can help me understand my son's situation better. We finally have diagnosis (positive for Celiac 6 weeks ago) and he is still losing weight on the gluten free diet. Is that common? He also has mercury toxicity that is being chelated with IV therapy with our naturepath. He was a bit better, then really weak and breathless again today. Do you recover over time with good days and bad days, or should he not be experiencing any backwards steps? I want to remain upbeat and hopeful, but I think I am scared by his weight loss and his inability to be back into life. Any advice from experience? Thanks!

Its quite a lot to go through both going off all gluten and doing mercury poisoning chelation at the same time. You might want to slow down the detox/chelation for a little while just to normalize your son's system. If its totally wiping your son out then I think it may be too much. It really might be wise to slow down the process. He has after all the rest of his life to do it. The chelation should nearly always be done very gradually--with a person who is strong enough to do it. It stirs up the mercury so it tends to wipe a person out. Slow and gradual is thus the key word.

Also make sure the chelation method(s) isn't adding to any hidden glutening. I had a doctor who gave me all this detox stuff that had hidden gluten in it. He thought I was "just too sensitive"!! But in retrospect its obvious what the problem was. Thus make sure any pills your son is taking have no hidden gluten in them. Avoid Standard Brands especially!! Similarly avoid anything with an alcohol base--including most homeopathics.

Mud packs of the hands and feet are a good adjunct to the detoxification. They sell food grade bentonite or French or Indian clay that is excellent for this. Same with saunas and exercise once he is strong enough to handle them. If the toxins go out through the skin its less hard on the overtaxed liver etc.

Make sure too he is eating a ton of organic veggies (and/or blended/or juiced)plus is avoiding all sugars etc. Detox herbs like dandelion root and cleavers (if he can tolerate them!) are also good adjuncts to help clean out out the liver, kidneys and lymphatic system during this process. Slow and gradual again is key.

The main thing however in my opinion and experience is that its important to establish new habits being gluten free before really going on mercury chelation therapy. Otherwise your son will likely a basket case. This happened to me -- and I wouldn't suggest it for anyone. I was so much better when I went off detoxing until after I had firmly established myself as entirely gluten free. Meanwhile diet, herbs, exercise, and eventually mud packs and saunas are a gentle and in my opinion good things to do in preparation before doing the mercury chelation therapy.

Bea

sandsurfgirl Collaborator

Here is an article about some of the dangers of chelation therapy.

Open Original Shared Link

I cut and pasted this from the article.

Hair analysis is not recommended for biomonitoring, because false elevations may occur if the specimen is not carefully collected. Provocative chelation tests for mercury have not been scientifically validated and are also not recommended. Several chelating agents, including succimer, dimercaprol, d-penicillamine, and N-acetylcysteine, have been shown to accelerate mercury elimination from the body. However, there is no evidence that chelation therapy will improve developmental function when given to treat mercury toxicosis. Moreover, chelating agents can have significant toxicity (e.g., hepatotoxicity) and precipitate allergic reaction.

"Because chelation therapy has potentially serious risks, the committee recommends that it be used only in carefully-controlled research settings with appropriate oversight by Institutional Review Boards protecting the interests of the children who participate."

There have been at least two recorded deaths in children during intravenous chelation. (Open Original Shared Link Philadelphia Enquirer 3/3/06, A20)

This is just one article and I can't vouch for the author, but since your son is getting so sick it is something to consider. In my experience, natural medicine doctors can be just as misinformed as the MD's can and sometimes their ego and their strong belief in what they are doing will lead them to continue treatment that isn't beneficial. I've had some wonderful natural medicine practitioners and am a big believer, but what I'm trying to say is just because a Naturopath or Acupuncturist or whatever says it's a good idea, doesn't necessarily mean it is or that it's not dangerous.

Heck, I had an anaphylactic reaction to the vitamins that my acupuncturist sold me because I didn't know I was allergic to royal jelly, something "natural" that is supposed to have numerous health benefits.

Those of us with celiac are so sick from a food source, so approach natural medicine and natural doctors the same way you would your M.D. They are ALL just practicing medicine.

I hope he gets better soon and you find support and help here. Online communities can be so wonderful.

YoloGx Rookie

Here is an article about some of the dangers of chelation therapy.

Open Original Shared Link

I cut and pasted this from the article.

Hair analysis is not recommended for biomonitoring, because false elevations may occur if the specimen is not carefully collected. Provocative chelation tests for mercury have not been scientifically validated and are also not recommended. Several chelating agents, including succimer, dimercaprol, d-penicillamine, and N-acetylcysteine, have been shown to accelerate mercury elimination from the body. However, there is no evidence that chelation therapy will improve developmental function when given to treat mercury toxicosis. Moreover, chelating agents can have significant toxicity (e.g., hepatotoxicity) and precipitate allergic reaction.

"Because chelation therapy has potentially serious risks, the committee recommends that it be used only in carefully-controlled research settings with appropriate oversight by Institutional Review Boards protecting the interests of the children who participate."

There have been at least two recorded deaths in children during intravenous chelation. (Open Original Shared Link Philadelphia Enquirer 3/3/06, A20)

This is just one article and I can't vouch for the author, but since your son is getting so sick it is something to consider. In my experience, natural medicine doctors can be just as misinformed as the MD's can and sometimes their ego and their strong belief in what they are doing will lead them to continue treatment that isn't beneficial. I've had some wonderful natural medicine practitioners and am a big believer, but what I'm trying to say is just because a Naturopath or Acupuncturist or whatever says it's a good idea, doesn't necessarily mean it is or that it's not dangerous.

Heck, I had an anaphylactic reaction to the vitamins that my acupuncturist sold me because I didn't know I was allergic to royal jelly, something "natural" that is supposed to have numerous health benefits.

Those of us with celiac are so sick from a food source, so approach natural medicine and natural doctors the same way you would your M.D. They are ALL just practicing medicine.

I hope he gets better soon and you find support and help here. Online communities can be so wonderful.

Well said!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mettedkny replied to hjayne19's topic in Traveling with Celiac Disease
      5

      Mallorca Guide

    2. - cristiana replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      40

      Severe severe mouth pain

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      40

      Severe severe mouth pain

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      New issue

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,087
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    kk007
    Newest Member
    kk007
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mettedkny
      You already got some great recommendations. Just want to second that Mallorca (and Spain in general) is one of the best and easiest places for celiacs to travel. I have been to Mallorca multiple times and have never experienced any cross contaminations and there are SO many easy to buy options in regular supermarkets. Hope you have a wonderful trip.
    • cristiana
      I agree.  If someone has Barrett's Esophagus, at least here in the UK, as I understand it under normal circumstances a PPI needs to be taken long term (or similar medication).  I have two friends with this.  The PPI it does have side effects but they still have to take it.  
    • knitty kitty
      Do talk to your doctor about making changes to your medication.    I'm not a medical doctor.   I'm a microbiologist.  I studied nutrition before switching to microbiology because I was curious what vitamins were doing inside the body. I would hate to give advice that jeopardizes your health, so do discuss things with your doctor.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, Sorry you've been feeling so poorly.   Are you taking any medication to treat the SIBO?   Are you taking any Benfotiamine?  Benfotiamine will help get control of the SIBO.  Thiamine deficiency has symptoms in common with MS. Have you had your gas appliances checked for gas leaks and exhaust fume leaks?  Carbon Monoxide poisoning can cause the same symptoms as the flu and glutening.  Doctors have to check venous blood (not arterial) for carbon monoxide.  Are other inhabitants sick, or just you?  Do they leave the house and get fresh air which relieves their symptoms?  
    • knitty kitty
      European wheat is often a "soft wheat" variety which contains less gluten than "hard wheat" varieties found in the States.   In European countries, different cooking methods and longer  fermentation (rising or proofing) times allow for further breakdown of gluten peptides. Wheat in the States is a blend of hard and soft wheat.  Gluten content can vary according to where the wheat was grown, growing conditions, when harvested, and local preference, so a blend of both hard and soft wheat is used to make a uniform product.   I moved around quite a bit as a child in a military family.  I had different reactions to gluten in different areas of the country every time we moved.  I believe some wheat breeds and blends are able to provoke a worse immune response than others.   Since European soft wheat doesn't contain as much gluten as American wheat, you may try increasing your intake of your soft wheat products.  A minimum of ten grams of gluten is required to get a sufficient immunological response so that the anti-gluten antibodies leave the intestines and enter the bloodstream where they can be measured by the tTg IgA test.  Your whole wheat bread may only have a gram of gluten per slice, so be prepared...  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.