Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help! Dd W/major Rash After Iodine In Hospital


climbmtwhitney

Recommended Posts

climbmtwhitney Apprentice

Need some help from the experts.....

My 10 year old daughter just had major surgery on her leg. Yesterday, day 4 in the hospital, she woke up and said, "Mom, I think I have bed sores all over my back." I looked and she had a major, inflamed, angry rash about 7" by 7" on her back. Very, very painful and a little itchy. The doctors determined that the rash area was cleaned with an iodine solution before her epidural. They think she might have an iodine allergy. I'm wondering if it's really a DH rash that reacted to the iodine--like an old-fashioned iodine patch test for Celiac rash. The doctors said that was also possible. She is mildly gluten intolerant. We let her have some gluten in the hospital just to try to get her to eat something. (Tsk. Tsk. I know.) She's very, VERY picky and wouldn't eat the gluten-free pasta they offered and we couldn't bring all her meals from home.

Do you think I have to have her tested for Celiac now? She's never had a rash a day in her life until now. I read that an iodine allergy is extremely rare. I also know that DH is rare. I have Celiac as well as one of my other children. What do you think? Oh, BTW, we're home now and the rash has not improved at all. Benedryl and the creme they prescribed have done squat. It's still super angry looking, it just doesn't hurt as much.

Thanks for your help!

Jillian


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



YoloGx Rookie

I don't think DH is as rare as you think--esp. if you have celiac! Its simply another way it shows itself... By all means have the test since the docs are alerted. And whether or not it is positive, I would take her off the gluten.

cassP Contributor

ya, DH is not "rare".. i think it's around 20% of Celiacs will get this. i didnt get it till 3 months ago! it is only now starting to fade

you should most definitely be testing all your children if you have it... just figure out what you need to have them do as far as gluten challenges so the tests can be accurate.

captaincrab55 Collaborator

For DH, it's best to see a Dermatologist while the blisters are filled with fluid.. They can do a biopsy and have results in two weeks...

climbmtwhitney Apprentice

Here's the thing.....we did the Celiac blood test on her when she was 8. Negative. Her stool testing showed that she was gluten intolerant and a double DQ1 genetically. So, we had her go gluten free with the rest of the household. Over the last 2 years she occasionally ate gluten such as when she was dining out with a friend. Now I'm wondering if I need to open the can of worms again and re-test her. If perhaps it's possible that things have changed and she's developed DH. Maybe the traumatic surgery put her over the edge? Or maybe it's too far fetched and I should just assume it's an iodine allergy. I did read that iodine allergies are often misdiagnosed and are really other things. Hmmmm. Help!

cassP Contributor

Here's the thing.....we did the Celiac blood test on her when she was 8. Negative. Her stool testing showed that she was gluten intolerant and a double DQ1 genetically. So, we had her go gluten free with the rest of the household. Over the last 2 years she occasionally ate gluten such as when she was dining out with a friend. Now I'm wondering if I need to open the can of worms again and re-test her. If perhaps it's possible that things have changed and she's developed DH. Maybe the traumatic surgery put her over the edge? Or maybe it's too far fetched and I should just assume it's an iodine allergy. I did read that iodine allergies are often misdiagnosed and are really other things. Hmmmm. Help!

im 38 years old, and even tho ive experienced every gut symptom, and excema & hives, & psorasis & dandruff, and depression/anxiety.. hypothyroid.. etc etc... i just now got my FIRST episode of DH- after 38 years. i tried to do the Iodine patch test- but i could only leave the iodine bandaid on for an hour- the burning was unbearable- i even burned off a little skin. even tho it was just an hour- i got a few more blisters.

i had already been 100% gluten free for a few weeks before i got the DH.. but i still eat a lot of corn byproducts & iodine. it's been about 3 months... and with a little silver ointment its starting to fade.

i dont know what your kids rash looks like- but it could very possibly be it. unless what your kid has is a burn.. ????

like said above- it would be a great idea to go to a derm and get it biopsied NEXT to the lesion... if that comes back positive- you dont have to worry about any sickening glutening challenges, or endoscopies- cause you would have your "positive" with the DH (IF thats what it is)

tarnalberry Community Regular

Iodine is a necessary "ingredient" in a DH outbreak. So, if she's been getting some gluten, and then had iodine introduced as well, yes, it could certainly by DH. Since she's tested negative and hasn't had it before, it's certainly worth checking to see if it is an iodine allergy (because she'd want to know that for medical reasons) but the sores can also be biopsied (around them, not in the center) to look for DH. No reason not to look at both.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      43

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    3. - Lkg5 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    4. - Charlie1946 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,098
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    BothySmithy
    Newest Member
    BothySmithy
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      I have taken the vitamins for a week. Haven't noticed any major changes but I will give it more time to see.
    • knitty kitty
      @Charlie1946,  Sorry I sidetracked your thread a bit.  Apologies. Proton pump inhibitors, like Omeprazole, change the pH in our gastrointestinal systems which allows opportunistic microbes to move in and take over.  Have you been checked for SIBO?  There's a significant link between length of Omeprazole use and SIBO.  I had SIBO, thrush (Candida) and lichen planus and other problems while I was on Omeprazole.  I had to stop taking it.  It was a horrible time, so I understand how painful and frustrating it is.   You change your microbiome (the bacteria and microbes living inside you) by changing what you eat.  They eat what you eat.  Change the menu and you get different customers.   I changed my diet.  I cut out dairy because I was reacting to the casein and lactose.  I cut out all processed foods and most carbohydrates. I ate meat and veggies mostly, some fruit like apples and mandarin oranges.  By cutting out all the excess carbohydrates, lactose, and empty carbs in processed gluten-free foods, the opportunistic microbes get starved out.  SIBO bacteria send chemical messages to our brains demanding more carbs, so be prepared for carb cravings, but don't let the microbiome control you!   The skin and digestive system is continuous.  The health of our outside skin reflects the health of our gastrointestinal system.  Essential B vitamins, like Thiamine B 1 and especially Niacin B 3, are needed to repair intestinal damage and keep bad bacteria in check.  Niacin helps improve not only the intestinal tract, but also the skin.  Sebaceous Hyperplasia is linked to being low in Niacin B 3.  Lichen Planus is treated with Niacinamide, a form of Niacin B 3.   Vitamins are chemical compounds that our bodies cannot make.  We must get them from our food.  If our food isn't digested well (low stomach acid from Omeprazole causes poor digestion), then vitamins aren't released well.  Plus there's a layer of SIBO bacteria absorbing our vitamins first between the food we've eaten and our inflamed and damaged villi that may have difficulty absorbing the vitamins.  So, taking vitamin supplements is a way to boost absorption of essential nutrients that will allow the body to fight off the microbes, repair and heal.   Doctors are taught in medical learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical companies.  The importance of nutrition is downplayed and called old fashioned.  Doctors are taught we have plenty to eat, so no one gets nutritional deficiency diseases anymore.  But we do, as people with Celiac disease, with impaired absorption.  Nutritional needs need to be addressed first with us.  Vitamins cannot be patented because they are natural substances.  But pharmaceutical drugs can be.  There's more money to be made selling pharmaceutical drugs than vitamins.   Makes me wonder how much illness could be prevented if people were screened for Celiac disease much earlier in life, instead of after they've been ill and medicated for years.   Talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing essential vitamins and minerals.   Interesting Reading: The Duration of Proton Pump Inhibitor Therapy and the Risk of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12250812/#:~:text=The long-term use of,overgrowth dynamics is less clear. Lichenoid drug eruption with proton pump inhibitors https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC27275/ Nicotinamide: A Multifaceted Molecule in Skin Health and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857428/
    • Lkg5
      My sebaceous hyperplasia and thrush disappeared when I stopped all dairy.
    • Charlie1946
      @knitty kitty Thank you so much for all that information! I will be sure to check it out and ask my doctor.  I am just at a loss, I am on my 2nd round of miracle mouthwash and I brush and scrape my tongue and (sorry this is gross) it's still coated in the middle 
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Traditional brown rice vinegars are made by fermenting brown rice and water with koji (Kōji 麹). The gluten risk comes from the method of preparing the koji: rice, wheat or barley may be used. Regardless of the starting grain, "koji" typically will be listed as an ingredient, and that term alone does not indicate gluten status. I called Eden Foods regarding their product "Organic Brown Rice Vinegar" (product of Japan) to ask how their product is made. They gave me a clear answer that they >do< use rice and they >do not< use wheat or barley in preparing their koji. FWIW, the product itself does not contain any labeling about gluten, gluten risk, or gluten safety. Based on Eden's statement, I am going to trust that this product is gluten safe and use it.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.