Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

DQ2/DQ8


Lizzylulu

Recommended Posts

Lizzylulu Newbie

My daughter is two years old and has been consistently small for her age. Last April she became very ill and lost three pounds. That doesn't sound like a lot but that left her weighing a mere 18 lbs. She seem to just drift away from us and become withdrawn around others. She would go hours without sleeping and nap for a quick 5 mins. She was an amazingly light sleeper and if she was woken up she would be very crabby. I became sick after having our third child. I was diganoused with celiac disease. Then a light came on, must be what's wrong with our two year old! So we put her on a gluten free diet and amazing things happened. Her hair started to grow, she smiled more, her eyes which were always the darkest-grey suddenly got specks of yellow & green in them.

When we finally took her to the pediatric GI, we were told she had to be tested and must go back on a regular diet. This was awful! She complained about stomace pain everytime she ate, her skin lost all its color she was VERY irratible. Finally the day of the endo arrived, Doc told us that the small intestines were worn away in patchs. It didn't look good. Finally we got a call, she is DQ2/DQ8, highest catagory. Her endo results were normal. She doesn't have Celiac Deisease. This makes no sense to us. How could she have worn away villi (patches), respond so well to a gluten-free diet and have both of the needed genes and not be celiac?

Can someone give me some advice? Im so fusterated!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

My daughter is two years old and has been consistently small for her age. Last April she became very ill and lost three pounds. That doesn't sound like a lot but that left her weighing a mere 18 lbs. She seem to just drift away from us and become withdrawn around others. She would go hours without sleeping and nap for a quick 5 mins. She was an amazingly light sleeper and if she was woken up she would be very crabby. I became sick after having our third child. I was diganoused with celiac disease. Then a light came on, must be what's wrong with our two year old! So we put her on a gluten free diet and amazing things happened. Her hair started to grow, she smiled more, her eyes which were always the darkest-grey suddenly got specks of yellow & green in them.

When we finally took her to the pediatric GI, we were told she had to be tested and must go back on a regular diet. This was awful! She complained about stomace pain everytime she ate, her skin lost all its color she was VERY irratible. Finally the day of the endo arrived, Doc told us that the small intestines were worn away in patchs. It didn't look good. Finally we got a call, she is DQ2/DQ8, highest catagory. Her endo results were normal. She doesn't have Celiac Deisease. This makes no sense to us. How could she have worn away villi (patches), respond so well to a gluten-free diet and have both of the needed genes and not be celiac?

Can someone give me some advice? Im so fusterated!

Get a copy of the endo report and the pathology report. Also, get any blood test & genetic test results. If they give you any trouble, tell them you are taking it to another doctor. At least you need to give it to your pediatrician. Read them and tell us here what they say. I'm assuming you are in the US. If you have any trouble getting the records, PM me. We can throw some legal phrasing at them. Most offices are easy to get copies from. Just talk to the person who answers the phone. They will probably transfer you to another clerk. If you are there for an appointment, ask the nurse to make you some copies.

Start out asking nicely and friendly.

mommida Enthusiast

You have enough for a "probable" Celiac diagnoses. You have positive for 2 known Celiac gene test and a positive improvement on a gluten free diet and villi damage as noted from the endoscopy with biopsy.

What was the doctors explaination for the villi damage? Were the biospies tested for Eosinophils?

Unfortunately there are other diseases that have associated damage from gluten or other "trigger" food or airborn allergens.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

You are a diagnosed celiac, she responded very well to the diet and became ill when you reintroduced gluten, she has both DQ2 and DQ8 plus with the endo "Doc told us that the small intestines were worn away in patches" no matter what the doctors tell you IMHO this child needs to be gluten free. False negatives are not uncommon especially in children. You don't need a doctors permission to make her gluten free and if the GI doctor doesn't give you an official diagnosis to make things easier when she goes to school perhaps your ped will as the ped will see the changes in her health and growth.

Lizzylulu Newbie

You are a diagnosed celiac, she responded very well to the diet and became ill when you reintroduced gluten, she has both DQ2 and DQ8 plus with the endo "Doc told us that the small intestines were worn away in patches" no matter what the doctors tell you IMHO this child needs to be gluten free. False negatives are not uncommon especially in children. You don't need a doctors permission to make her gluten free and if the GI doctor doesn't give you an official diagnosis to make things easier when she goes to school perhaps your ped will as the ped will see the changes in her health and growth.

Thank you for this. Its nice to have the support of others.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      130,828
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Vernice Hughes
    Newest Member
    Vernice Hughes
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Suze046
      Thanks Scott. Those articles are really interesting. I’m cutting out gluten for 6 weeks but honestly I’m not sure I even want to reintroduce it! I ate at a restaurant for the first time on Wednesday and then Thursday was really uncomfortable and had a few trips to the loo.. wonder if there was some cross contamination 🤷‍♀️ if that’s how my body reacts after not eating it for 3 weeks I’m not sure it’s worth reintroducing it and re testing for celiac! It might have been a coincidence I realise that I’m not going to feel better all of a sudden and my gut is probably still trying to heal. Thanks for your supportive message! 
    • RMJ
      Reference range 0.00 to 10.00 means that within that range is normal, so not celiac. There are other antibodies that can be present in celiac disease and they don’t all have to be positive to have celiac.  I’m sure someone else will post a link to an article describing them! Plus, if you are IgA deficient the celiac IgA tests won’t be accurate.
    • cristiana
      Great to have another UK person on the forum!   Re: blood tests, it sounds as if you are being well monitored but if you have any further concerns about blood tests or anything else, do not hesitate to start a new thread. Cristiana  
    • Lori Lavell
      Julia530 - I have the same gene structure and most of the symptoms you have experienced plus more.....I agree with you whole heartedly!! There are approximately 10 (NOT TWO) genes that can predispose a person to having Celiac Disease. I read in Pub Med that HLA DQA1:05  can result in Celiac Disease in approximately 1 in 875 people. While it is obviously more rare it is NOT BENIGN and should not go unnoticed. Go get the book "NO GRAIN, NO PAIN" and I highly suggest you read it cover to cover. It is written by a Chiropractor who quit his medical education when the VA wouldn't allow him to treat the Veterans with debilitating arthritis with a grain free diet. I have been grain free for over 10 years now.....the facts are we are being lied to! There is a form or gluten in every protein in every grain on the planet of which there are 1000 or more. Just because all they are testing for is the Gliadin in wheat is no excuse to report only partial facts. I became a Certified Function Nutrition Counselor who specializes in Celiac Disease other Autoimmune conditions. Lavell Krueger, CFNC - lavellnutrition    aol
    • lookingforanswersone
      Hi, just looked and it doesn't list that. Says : Tissue Transglutaminase (IgA)  0.30 (results - negative) U/ml (Units ) Reference range 0.00 - 10.00
×
×
  • Create New...