Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Constipation Issues


SJD

Recommended Posts

SJD Rookie

My 8 yr old daughter (undiagnosed celiac) has had a few bouts of sudden severe constipation and I'm wondering if it's celiac related or if we are dealing with a whole new thing? Her main reaction to gluten is sudden severe constipation which then causes pain and also brings her moods way down and causes her to be very slow moving and depressed. I eliminated gluten a year ago April and she's done AMAZING, however a few months ago she started having the same symptoms of gluten exposure, but wasn't exposed. I figured out that she reacts the same to apples. She can have juices that have apple in them, but she can't have plain apple juice nor can she tolerate applesauce or apples. So, for about 5 months we've eliminated them and things have been great...until about 4 weeks ago I put out a bowl of plain potato chips for her and her two brothers and without realizing it she ate almost all of them herself (it was a BIG bowl!). Well, sure enough she got very constipated and had all the same symptoms. I'm thinking that the salt from the chips maybe dehydrated her so that could explain that particular day, but now this past Sunday we were at a graduation party and I let her have a can of Orange Crush. She very rarely has pop, if ever, so for her to drink a whole can was out of the ordinary. On top of that she had a few smaller gluten free crispy bars, so she consumed a lot of sugar, which is really out of the ordinary. That is the only thing different that she ate, but within an hour or two she was so constipated that she was crying and in pain on the toilet. While we were at the party she had attempted to have a bowel movement twice without any success and then the last time is when I was made aware of what was going on and she was on the toilet for about 45 minutes and was in pain. We were out of town otherwise we would have just gone home, but that wasn't an option at the time. She eventually was able to stand up and get off the toilet, but still not able to go. I had her drink a LOT of water and got her as comfortable as I could until we could get home about two hours later, where I gave her a large dose of Miralax and then continued giving her doses each day. She finally was able to go yesterday. I'm just concerned that her symptoms are now not just gluten related and why do her symptoms come on so fast and severe. I don't want to waste my time with more doctors and all there unnecessary testing. She's been through so much, but I also don't want to be overlooking anything. Any ideas, suggestions or answers are very much appreciated!

Thank you!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



gluten free overseas Apprentice

I am not an expert because my son is going through this right now too, but I think you should keep exploring other food allergies. Lots of people with celiac disease are allergic to yeast--which is in a lot of foods. Potato, corn, soy, and citrus are very common allergies for people with celiac disease.

Can she tolerate quinoa? Quinoa helps me break my constipation without using laxatives.

So sorry your daughter is suffering. :(

SJD Rookie

Gluten free overseas - Thank you for your info. I am not real familiar with quinoa, is it like oatmeal? I was thinking it was a flour, how do you eat it?

Thanks!

Brenna'sMom Newbie

I found probiotics to be very helpful for my daughter's constipation issues, even before we knew about the celiac. It's a bit odd that all of that sugar made her constipation worse. Typically, sugar helps loosen bm's. I know it's stating the obvious, but keep pushing the fluids. With all the fiber our celiac kids consume, it's difficult to get enough water in to balance it out. I'm sorry she was so miserable, bless her heart. It may be worth mentioning to her physician the next time you have an appointment.

ElseB Contributor

Constipation is my predominant symptom. Without fail, if I've get glutened, 4 weeks of constipation and lethary will follow. Same if I eat apples. The birth control pill does it too. After eliminating all of those things, I'm okay most of the time. But, I still go through some periods of constipation in the absence of having been glutened (I know this, because I have no stomach ache or night sweats). I've put it down to hormones. When it happens, I take probiotics and avoid milk. Magnesium pills also work wonders. Magnesium promotes absorption of water by the intestines, so drawing water in helps alleviate the constipation.

weluvgators Explorer

Is it possible that the sudden and severe issue/pain is gas? If I get glutened, even by very small amounts, I can get horrible gas pain. In the past, I have sat on the toilet . . . not producing anything, but wanting to produce something to relieve the pressure. The only thing that helps is staying in a fetal position (really the toilet is one of the most comfortable positions), but my DD likes to use a heating pad on her belly for similar belly pain issues. Of course, the gas episode is typically followed by constipation issues, so it can get confusing.

Both times that you describe the pain, she consumed a rather large amount of something. I have to be particularly careful with foods that are eaten in any quantity, as even at very low levels of gluten contamination, enough quantity of low contamination can hurt very badly. It could also be something other than gluten, but in our family's experience, we have found it pretty effective to do lots of double and triple checks to make sure something is gluten free. Our family is also utilizing probiotics, among a few other supplements, to help us on our road to recovery.

I hope that you can find relief for your daughter soon.

SJD Rookie

Constipation is my predominant symptom. Without fail, if I've get glutened, 4 weeks of constipation and lethary will follow. Same if I eat apples. The birth control pill does it too. After eliminating all of those things, I'm okay most of the time. But, I still go through some periods of constipation in the absence of having been glutened (I know this, because I have no stomach ache or night sweats). I've put it down to hormones. When it happens, I take probiotics and avoid milk. Magnesium pills also work wonders. Magnesium promotes absorption of water by the intestines, so drawing water in helps alleviate the constipation.

Thank you so much for sharing your story, I'm so relieved to hear that someone else has the same reactions to not only gluten, but apples too. I've been wondering if it's all in my head! Have you ever figured out why the apples and birth control pills affect you? My daughter is quite a trooper with all this, but I just hate to see her struggle at all. Thanks for the magnesium tip, I didn't know that. Thank you again!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



SJD Rookie

Is it possible that the sudden and severe issue/pain is gas? If I get glutened, even by very small amounts, I can get horrible gas pain. In the past, I have sat on the toilet . . . not producing anything, but wanting to produce something to relieve the pressure. The only thing that helps is staying in a fetal position (really the toilet is one of the most comfortable positions), but my DD likes to use a heating pad on her belly for similar belly pain issues. Of course, the gas episode is typically followed by constipation issues, so it can get confusing.

Both times that you describe the pain, she consumed a rather large amount of something. I have to be particularly careful with foods that are eaten in any quantity, as even at very low levels of gluten contamination, enough quantity of low contamination can hurt very badly. It could also be something other than gluten, but in our family's experience, we have found it pretty effective to do lots of double and triple checks to make sure something is gluten free. Our family is also utilizing probiotics, among a few other supplements, to help us on our road to recovery.

I hope that you can find relief for your daughter soon.

Thank you. I do think some of her pain is gas, but the thing I can't figure out is that she can have normal soft bowel movements (which is a daily discussion in our house)every single day, but when she is glutened or has apples (and now these past couple of episodes) she immediately has BM's the size of raisins. And this change can happen from one BM to the next usually in less than a day and it would continue for weeks if I didn't use Miralax. Does that seem weird to anyone else, or is this normal for celiac's??

Thank you!

SJD Rookie

I found probiotics to be very helpful for my daughter's constipation issues, even before we knew about the celiac. It's a bit odd that all of that sugar made her constipation worse. Typically, sugar helps loosen bm's. I know it's stating the obvious, but keep pushing the fluids. With all the fiber our celiac kids consume, it's difficult to get enough water in to balance it out. I'm sorry she was so miserable, bless her heart. It may be worth mentioning to her physician the next time you have an appointment.

Thank you, I will mention it the next time we go in. I appreciate your response. :)

SJD Rookie

I am not an expert because my son is going through this right now too, but I think you should keep exploring other food allergies. Lots of people with celiac disease are allergic to yeast--which is in a lot of foods. Potato, corn, soy, and citrus are very common allergies for people with celiac disease.

Can she tolerate quinoa? Quinoa helps me break my constipation without using laxatives.

So sorry your daughter is suffering. :(

We've done all the allergy testing and everything was negative, however we never tested for yeast I'll have to ask about that one the next time we go. My son has 24 food allergies so unfortunately I am very familiar with allergies, but I just can't figure her out yet. We do probiotics but not as much as we should, I hate using the Miralax because her colon did have damage from the laxatives the doctor had her on last year, which we found out from her Upper GI & Colonoscopy, so I am going to look into the Quinoa. Thank you!

shadowicewolf Proficient

prunes are natures ah 'plumbing fixer' fruit. Can she have those?

gluten free overseas Apprentice

Quinoa is a grain--I make it in a soup a bit like barley soup (except with quinoa, not barley). You can find it at health food stores. You have to wash it really well in a sieve under water to get the film off or it can give you a stomach ache. Some people with celiac can't digest it well, but for me, I eat it just about everyday to stay regular.

SJD Rookie

Thank you for the info on Quinoa, we will give it a try!

And yes, the prunes would probably work if she'd eat them. Every once in awhile I can get her to drink some prune juice, she doesn't like it, but she knows it helps so sometimes she'll do it. Thank you to everyone who is responding, I really appreciate it! :)

domesticactivist Collaborator

I got horrible constipation when we were first gluten free (have always been prone to it, though). After eliminating all grains and packaged gluten-free foods and being on GAPS for a while it got much better.

ptandy Newbie

Hi, I just joined the group again (I have been a member in the past). I highly recommend Peter D'adamo's Eat Right 4 Your Blood type diet for its emphasis on highly beneficial foods for a particular blood type. This works well for me, because I'm O and he says blood type O shouldn't touch wheat. By cutting out everything else he says to avoid, and adding the beneficial ones, children and adults alike should have success with soluble fiber foods. In my frustration, I have started posting recipes on Associated Content using D'Adamo's principles for blood type O.

Good luck, and if you try the recipe, I'd love some feedback.

Pam

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    2. - JudyLou replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    3. - knitty kitty replied to JudyLou's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      11

      Seeking advice on potential gluten challenge

    4. - trents replied to Mark Conway's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      5

      Have I got coeliac disease

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,154
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kathy N
    Newest Member
    Kathy N
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • JudyLou
    • knitty kitty
      I have osteopenia and have cracked three vertebrae.  Niacin is connected to osteoporosis! Do talk to your nutritionist and doctor about supplementing with B vitamins.  Blood tests don't reveal the amount of vitamins stored inside cells.  The blood is a transportation system and can reflect vitamins absorbed from food eaten in the previous twenty-four to forty-eight hours.  Those "normal limits" are based on minimum amounts required to prevent disease, not levels for optimal health.   Keep us posted on your progress.   B Vitamins: Functions and Uses in Medicine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9662251/ Association of dietary niacin intake with osteoporosis in the postmenopausal women in the US: NHANES 2007–2018 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11835798/ Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/   Nutritional Imbalances in Adult Celiac Patients Following a Gluten-Free Diet https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8398893/ Nutritional Consequences of Celiac Disease and Gluten-Free Diet https://www.mdpi.com/2036-7422/15/4/61 Simplifying the B Complex: How Vitamins B6 and B9 Modulate One Carbon Metabolism in Cancer and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609401/
    • JudyLou
      Thank you so much for the clarification! Yes to these questions: Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, or vitamins? I’m within healthy range for nutritional tests, thyroid and am not anemic. I do have osteopenia. I don’t take any medications, and the dietician was actually a nutritionist (not sure if that is the same thing) recommended by my physician at the time to better understand gluten free eating.    I almost wish the gluten exposure had triggered something, so at least I’d know what’s going on. So confusing!    Many thanks! 
    • knitty kitty
      @JudyLou,  I have dermatitis herpetiformis, too!  And...big drum roll... Niacin improves dermatitis herpetiformis!   Niacin is very important to skin health and intestinal health.   You're correct.  dermatitis herpetiformis usually occurs on extensor muscles, but dermatitis herpetiformis is also pressure sensitive, so blisters can form where clothing puts pressure on the skin. Elastic waist bands, bulky seams on clothing, watch bands, hats.  Rolled up sleeves or my purse hanging on my arm would make me break out on the insides of my elbows.  I have had a blister on my finger where my pen rested as I write.  Foods high in Iodine can cause an outbreak and exacerbate dermatitis herpetiformis. You've been on the gluten free diet for a long time.  Our gluten free diet can be low in vitamins and minerals, especially if processed gluten free foods are consumed.  Those aren't fortified with vitamins like gluten containing products are.  Have you consulted dietician?  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Osteoporosis? Thyroid? Anemia?  Do you take any supplements, medicine, or vitamins? Niacin deficiency is connected to anemia.  Anemia can cause false negatives on tTg IgA tests.  A person can be on that borderline where symptoms wax and wane for years, surviving, but not thriving.  We have a higher metabolic need for more nutrients when we're sick or emotionally stressed which can deplete the small amount of vitamins we can store in our bodies and symptoms reappear.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards. The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.    Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.   However, another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.   I recommend getting checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  More than just Vitamin D and B12.  A gluten challenge would definitely be a stressor capable of precipitating further vitamin deficiencies and health consequences.   Best wishes!    
    • trents
      And I agree with Wheatwacked. When a physician tells you that you can't have celiac disease because you're not losing weight, you can be certain that doctor is operating on a dated understanding of celiac disease. I assume you are in the UK by the way you spelled "coeliac". So, I'm not sure what your options are when it comes to healthcare, but I might suggest you look for another physician who is more up to date in this area and is willing to work with you to get an accurate diagnosis. If, in fact, you do not have celiac disease but you know that gluten causes you problems, you might have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). There is no test available yet for NCGS. Celiac must first be ruled out. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the lining of the small bowel. NCGS we is not autoimmune and we know less about it's true nature. But we do know it is considerably more common than celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.