Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Celiac, Caffeine And Sweating


Greg Rappaport

Recommended Posts

Greg Rappaport Rookie

Hey there folks,

In addition to some other problems I have been having recently with joint/bone inflamation & pain (very prounounced in my right foot and palms of my hands) as well as dryness/soreness in my eyes I am left wondering about caffeine.

I am 41, have been gluten-free now for about 15 years, and believe I have been managing my gluten-free diet relatively well. Of course it's hard to be 100% certain! I have increasingly noticed over the past 5 years or so that I seem to react very strongly to caffeine, even very little amounts - causing me to get very energized (sometimes anxious) and perspire heavily (underarms & chest especially). I eventually crash and burn, becoming very tired when the buzz wears off. It's more an issue of being uncomfortable sweating so much (i.e., at the office or a meeting). I pride myself knowing that caffeine is my only real vice :) , but can't afford to sweat so much. Alas, I do love coffee, and hate the thought of eliminating it altogether.

Does anybody else have any caffeine related thoughts or issues which tie into their celiac diagnosis you might be interested in sharing? Is there any rationale for celiacs to aviod caffeine, especially in those celiaces whose diet appears to be under control?

Thanks a bunch!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



YoloGx Rookie

I honestly don't really know--except I don't seem to handle any stimulants at all--including chocolate and lately raw garlic (cooked is just fine!). I had to quit first coffee and later black and green caffeinated teas.

We already have an overactive immune system. Could that be part of it?? We just don't need it??

Now without all that, nor much herbs at all either due to a low salicylate diet, homeopathics work for me, whereas in the past they didn't (the little pill kind). A trade off perhaps??

It seems I am much more sensitive to various things than I was in the past, that is for certain. I used to love my coffee, and then my tea etc. so I know how hard it is to want to quit. But life continues and you will find other pleasures.

Greg Rappaport Rookie

Thanks for the encouraging thoughts and advice. I appreciate your feedback.

PainfulSpaghetti Newbie

Greg, Caffiene works in mysterious ways with me. Some days I feel as if I could climb Mt. Everest after 1 cup, and sometimes, I feel like I could fall over and die from stomach pain, etc., after 1/2 a cup. Your symptoms though sound alot like sjogrens. Open Original Shared Link I was tested for that as well, and had a weird partial positive reading. Celiac is an autoimmune disorder, and many of us have mulitiple auto immmune diseases, that show up like bad pennies. I hope you feel better!

lynnelise Apprentice

Do you have these issues with all caffine or just coffee? You could have a mild coffee allergy or intolerance. I have occasional issues with coffee but can drink tons of tea without problems.

Also people with Celiac are prone to other autoimmune issues. You may want a check up just to be sure you aren't dealing with RA, Lupus, or Sjogren's (commonly causes dry eyes).

Greg Rappaport Rookie

Do you have these issues with all caffine or just coffee? You could have a mild coffee allergy or intolerance. I have occasional issues with coffee but can drink tons of tea without problems.

Also people with Celiac are prone to other autoimmune issues. You may want a check up just to be sure you aren't dealing with RA, Lupus, or Sjogren's (commonly causes dry eyes).

I'm guessing it is all caffeine. Sometimes when I drink a soda I get a rash on the back of my hand. Anyway, definitly ruled out RA via blood-test. I am asking my doctor about Sjogren's Syndrome next visit. Not sure about Lupus yet. My sister-in-law has Lupus... I'll ask her some questions first. Not sure if you've seen any of my other posts, but I'm really focused right now on being able to resume normal walking and movement free of joint-pain.

Thanks for your feedback. ;)

GFinDC Veteran

I gave up coffee and tea a couple years ago. I can drink soda with caffeine but not much of it, and not for 2 days in a row. Or it starts causing bad effects. So I don't really drink caffeine in soda much any more. Or soda at all for that matter.

It makes me crash hard, almost to the point of passing out. Just isn't a positive any more. I think it causes low blood pressure for me, and that's the cause of the weakness. There are several older threads about caffeine causing problems, so it is not an extremely rare issue for us. You could try another hot beverage with caffeine, like yerba mata and see if it works better.

Or you could take a No-Doz pill (caffeine) and see how it affects you.

Nightshades are one food group that seem to cause joint pain for people, and soy also.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Greg Rappaport Rookie

I gave up coffee and tea a couple years ago. I can drink soda with caffeine but not much of it, and not for 2 days in a row. Or it starts causing bad effects. So I don't really drink caffeine in soda much any more. Or soda at all for that matter.

It makes me crash hard, almost to the point of passing out. Just isn't a positive any more. I think it causes low blood pressure for me, and that's the cause of the weakness. There are several older threads about caffeine causing problems, so it is not an extremely rare issue for us. You could try another hot beverage with caffeine, like yerba mata and see if it works better.

Or you could take a No-Doz pill (caffeine) and see how it affects you.

Nightshades are one food group that seem to cause joint pain for people, and soy also.

Thanks for the response. What are "nightshades"? Not sure I have ever heard of this as a food group. I am going to discuss soy with my doctor - going to see a rheumatologist next week, and will reconnect with a GI doctor soon.

YoloGx Rookie

Thanks for the response. What are "nightshades"? Not sure I have ever heard of this as a food group. I am going to discuss soy with my doctor - going to see a rheumatologist next week, and will reconnect with a GI doctor soon.

NIghtshades are potatoes, tomatoes, peppers.

I react negatively to salicylates--which are in many foods, especially the skins, as well as in most herbs and most fruit. Salicylates are really the same thing as asperin. One can get leaky gut just from salicylate sensitivity, and it often creates joint and nerve pain etc..

So there are many possibilities.

Just one word of caution with your AMA docs. Most are not into preventive medicine. They just want to cover up the symptoms rather than overcome or better deal with the cause. If you saw an integrative medicine specialist it might help you out a lot more. Another alternative is seeing a good homeopath.

Bea

GFinDC Veteran

Thanks for the response. What are "nightshades"? Not sure I have ever heard of this as a food group. I am going to discuss soy with my doctor - going to see a rheumatologist next week, and will reconnect with a GI doctor soon.

Hi Greg,

There are actually thousands of plants in the nightshade family. most aren't used for food though. The food ones that bother me are tomatoes, peppers and potatoes. Sweet potatoes are ok though, they are a different plant family. And sweet potatoes are better for you than regular white potatoes anyway, they have more nutrients and antioxidants.

Greg Rappaport Rookie

Had been off caffeine now for nearly two weeks (no soda or coffee) and broke down today and got a small diet coke at Wawa. Stomach felt horrible all evening until I came home and ate an Udi's gluten-free bagel.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    2. - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    5. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,336
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jeffrey Yeres
    Newest Member
    Jeffrey Yeres
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.