Unformed Toddler Poop For Months (Background Included)

[Bosmina323]

My daughter is 22 months and has been having mostly unformed poops since September. She eats a very limited diet right now and I am stumped as to what has been causing the different poop. She did have a long period of time with awesome formed poops.

My background: I was IgG tested shortly before I became pregnant with her and gluten/wheat/rye were between low and medium. The naturopath suggested limiting my gluten/wheat intake. I noticed that after not eating gluten and then eating gluten I was very tired and achey. Through my pregnancy I did eat gluten although not as much as previously.

A while after her birth I had a stool test done on myself because I was having weird floating poop (still do). It showed that I had possible fat malabsorption, needed more bifidus, and had a high enzyme level (the one that breaks up toxins forgetting the name right now). Currently I am not taking anything to help this.

Her background: Born at home and had oral vitamin K (in sesame oil) quite a few doses. At a week old she began having mucus and juice as her poop. This went on for a while and I took out the top 8. I was desperate for answers and so saw a chiro who did muscle testing. After cutting out more foods, nightshades were one, eventually things got better. Her poops no longer had mucus and after introducing some solid food became formed. Rolled off the diaper no problem, one or two wipes.

We moved slowly on the food because it seemed that many times she would get redness around her anus "allergy ring". This happened for sure with peas, baby food that had citric acid in it, at one point sweet potato, plus others that I am blanking on right now.

Fast forward to August of last year. We started her at a daycare since I needed to work more hours. I would send food with for her to eat. The daycare woman said that she would watch so that she didn't eat anyone elses food. And if she did I needed to know about it and keep track of it in the food diary, so if she did get a red bum I could maybe figure it out.

Around this same time I tried giving her first butter and then goat yogurt. They seemed to make her gassy. Also around this time her poops were changing and becoming more unformed and sour smelling and at one point there was mucus for a few days. I also introduced egg at this time (had cut it out for a week and seen no difference)

I stopped giving her the dairy. She still had unformed poops. Her last day at the daycare was Oct 14th. Since then she has had a handful of formed poops. They range from thick peanut butter to slimy explosions. At times they appear grainy and many times I use a ton of wipes to get her clean. However, she has not had a red bum for quite awhile.

I am still nursing her when we are together. I work 25 hours/week. When she had the awesome formed poops she was nursing much more than she does now.

Right now she eats: chicken, turkey, eggs, millet, tinkyada rice noodles, butternut squash, bananas, avacados, blueberries, apples, spinach, cinnamon, basil, oregano, parsley, garlic salt

In the past month we have added: black beans, raspberries, canned refried pinto beans (bearitos brand), strawberries. They appear to be fine. No red bum.

Most recently we have taken out quinoa flakes that she ate as a hot cereal (thinking cross contamination from bulk bin at our coop)

She used to eat a lot of puffed rice and millet. These were not certified gluten free.

I don't know if she reacts to gluten because I have never directly given it to her. I almost want to, to see what happens. But then again I don't.

I cannot figure it out and I am going crazy. And now I think maybe she's reacting to the bulk items that are cross contaminated (ie the quiona flakes, brown rice, millet?)

The dr has no idea and said it was toddler diarrhea.

We do give her probiotics, fish oil and vitamin D3.

She sleeps well.

She is on the small side around 21lbs?

Any ideas? Sorry it is so long.

[beebs]

I have no idea mate, but sounds similar to what we are going through, DS 2 is gluten free and lactose and isn't vomiting every day anymore - but man - he still has the worst, foul, mucousy huge disgusto poos. I am at a loss, we have cut out everything and reintroduce and nothing seems to change..let me know if you work it out - I'm watching this thread with interest.

[StephanieL]

Have you tried a really good probiotic?

My DS has many food allergies. He also has Celiac. Until he was off everything (dairy, egg, soy, peanut, tree nut, fish and shell fish) as well as gluten AND on a probiotic for about a month.

We are huge fans of Custom Probiotics. They sent us about a months worth to try before we purchased it from them. I ordered it after 3 days it changed things so much so fast!

[kaity]

my son just turned three yesterday and i took him off gluten yesterday, he has never had well formed stool, except for one month when i took him off gluten but then his test results came back and the doctor said that he isnt celiac even though a doctor before him said that my son is celiac, so i put him back on, right now he is a three year old weighing 24 pounds with black patches under his eyes, big belly, he poops about 4 to 5 times a day really messy ones, i mean sometimes i have to change all his clothes becasue he dirties his pants, my 13 month old son has thicker stool than his three year old brother. i took him off gluten yesterday hopefully i will start seeing result with in a few weeks, i am so desperate, but my problem now is that he just started going to daycare, i am afraid if he eats something glutened over there... anyways i have my fingers crossed, and if i notice any imporovement i am going to keep him off gluten..

[Bosmina323]

Have you tried a really good probiotic?

My DS has many food allergies. He also has Celiac. Until he was off everything (dairy, egg, soy, peanut, tree nut, fish and shell fish) as well as gluten AND on a probiotic for about a month.

We are huge fans of Custom Probiotics. They sent us about a months worth to try before we purchased it from them. I ordered it after 3 days it changed things so much so fast!

We have been giving her UAS Labs DDS Junior since she was an infant. She was muscle tested for it and we give her about 1 tsp per day. I have heard of the custom probiotics brand but we've never tried it. I might be interested if you can "try" it, before buying the whole bottle which is quite an upfront expense for us.

Right now we do give her eggs and I eat eggs (as she is still nursing). I do eat almond butter, but she does not.

I have cut both of these things out without a change, this was a while ago.

I am SO hesitant to take foods out as she already has a short list and eats so much. She is always hungry and snacking. Sometimes I am at a loss of what to feed feed her, and I don't want her to start denying certain foods [ as she already has done with broccoli and squash (most times)] because she has eaten so frequently.

[lil'chefy]

We have been giving her UAS Labs DDS Junior since she was an infant. She was muscle tested for it and we give her about 1 tsp per day. I have heard of the custom probiotics brand but we've never tried it. I might be interested if you can "try" it, before buying the whole bottle which is quite an upfront expense for us.

Right now we do give her eggs and I eat eggs (as she is still nursing). I do eat almond butter, but she does not.

I have cut both of these things out without a change, this was a while ago.

I am SO hesitant to take foods out as she already has a short list and eats so much. She is always hungry and snacking. Sometimes I am at a loss of what to feed feed her, and I don't want her to start denying certain foods [ as she already has done with broccoli and squash (most times)] because she has eaten so frequently.

I too am battling constant loose stool diarhea with my 25 month old son. He has even been hospitalized for dehydration twice! My son currently eats wheat and loves it, I might add. When he was in the hospital last time he had an endoscopy with 10 biopsies done. The dr. said no celiac. He also had the blood test. No celiac. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to his loose bm's. He no longer drinks cows milk, or soy, as I have noticed cow's milk makes diarrhea worse, and soy milk makes him constipated? He is drinking almond milk now, and taking gummy vites, along with florastor. After starting the florastor 7-8 months ago, I have noticed no difference, no change. I took him to an allergist: He is supposedly allergic to none of the main allergens. I hate this for him, as I am sure you do for your daughter. Potty training is something else when your kid poops 6-10 times a day. I have DH that is in remission, which is why I insisted on my son being tested for celiac, but to no avail! Good luck, I know I am no help, but at least we can commiserate.

[Bosmina323]

I too am battling constant loose stool diarhea with my 25 month old son. He has even been hospitalized for dehydration twice! My son currently eats wheat and loves it, I might add. When he was in the hospital last time he had an endoscopy with 10 biopsies done. The dr. said no celiac. He also had the blood test. No celiac. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to his loose bm's. He no longer drinks cows milk, or soy, as I have noticed cow's milk makes diarrhea worse, and soy milk makes him constipated? He is drinking almond milk now, and taking gummy vites, along with florastor. After starting the florastor 7-8 months ago, I have noticed no difference, no change. I took him to an allergist: He is supposedly allergic to none of the main allergens. I hate this for him, as I am sure you do for your daughter. Potty training is something else when your kid poops 6-10 times a day. I have DH that is in remission, which is why I insisted on my son being tested for celiac, but to no avail! Good luck, I know I am no help, but at least we can commiserate.

It's so hard isn't it. That must have been quite scary to have your son hospitalized for dehydration.

I am really not looking forward to potty training at all. I hope I can get things figured out by the time she is 2.5 since that's when she will start at a preschool and they have to be potty trained to attend.

Thanks so much for your post. It's nice to know I am not alone.

[beebs]

I too am battling constant loose stool diarhea with my 25 month old son. He has even been hospitalized for dehydration twice! My son currently eats wheat and loves it, I might add. When he was in the hospital last time he had an endoscopy with 10 biopsies done. The dr. said no celiac. He also had the blood test. No celiac. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to his loose bm's. He no longer drinks cows milk, or soy, as I have noticed cow's milk makes diarrhea worse, and soy milk makes him constipated? He is drinking almond milk now, and taking gummy vites, along with florastor. After starting the florastor 7-8 months ago, I have noticed no difference, no change. I took him to an allergist: He is supposedly allergic to none of the main allergens. I hate this for him, as I am sure you do for your daughter. Potty training is something else when your kid poops 6-10 times a day. I have DH that is in remission, which is why I insisted on my son being tested for celiac, but to no avail! Good luck, I know I am no help, but at least we can commiserate.

Was there any sign of anything?? Inflammation/GERD etc

[lil'chefy]

Was there any sign of anything?? Inflammation/GERD etc

no. not really just inflammation

[GFdad0110]

My son is now 22 months and We go through some of the things that the rest of u all talk about. We noticed within a couple weeks he couldn't tolerate cows milk because his bm were wet, yellow, and about 10-12 a day. So we switch him to a soy based formula a almost immediately it was normal. When we started solid foods we noticed he was intolerant to gluten again because of his bm witch were diarrhea and just have a different nasty smell. I am gluten intolerant so I was all ways on the look out for it. he seems to be ok on a gluten free/ lactose free diet ' but sometimes he gets a mystery loose bm? He started day care in september and of course our fears were if he eats something he shouldn't. The teachers are aware of it and i'm sure there was a couple of times where he did eat something, but what can we do. I grew up with it in a world that was a lot less aware of celiac disease and i made it. As a child I tested myself from time to time and I think thats only natural. No kid wants to be different and there were times when me and my friends would go to mcdonalds and I would be embarrassed because I had to take the bread off my burger. I'm sure my son will go through the same things i did. It sucks when your kid doesn't feel good and you don't know why. Nothing stresses me more. All I can say is read every label. Make sure the probiotics and every thing else you give your little one are free of the bad stuff. Hang in there. It will probably take some time to figure out what is tolerable for the diet. These forums are awesome for peace of mind to know your not alone out there.