Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Professional In The Food Industry With Celiacs?


pbgolfer1

Recommended Posts

pbgolfer1 Newbie

Hello everyone. I'm new to the site, and to the "gluten free" world as well. About 4 days new:) I have been battling anxiety, stomach issues, and a general run-down feeling for a few years (and honestly in a less severe manor for most of my life). The issues escalated during a time of stress in my life but didn't leave with the stress...although you could say the symptoms themselves are stressful, so it's a bit of a catch 22. Regardless, these and a few other small side effects of the episodes that hit me almost weekly in some severity or another have led me to a possible celiac's diagnosis. I am very willing to give it a shot and eliminate the glutenous foods from my diet if it leads to the end of this and a generally better life. I'm very familiar with the needs and limitations in diet of those afflicted, as I have worked in the restaurant industry for 15 years as a cook, kitchen manager, and general manager so I don't really need the "what to/not to eat" sort of help. I would love to hear from others in the industry that may have had some difficulties coping or obstacles along the way. Not being able to taste your own new products as a reference point for guests? Issues with performing quality control "line checks" and the like?

Unfortunately, I'm currently employed as a GM for PANERA BREAD! ...LOL. This makes it hard for a lover of all things food just starting out in a gluten free trial to be around. That much I know and think I can handle. However, I have to wonder if being in a place where breads and such are baked daily, sliced constantly, etc. for 50 hours a week may actually be planting gluten in my system environmentally??? The issues I have that may be Celiac related started before I began working for the company, but is it possible for me to get over them in a place like that? Any thoughts or (hopefully) experiences?

And finally: Being a cook for many years, it is a huge passion of mine! I do hate the idea of having to limit myself in the ingredient department now, but at the same time I am really feeling like it is a great creative challenge that I can really look forward to once I wrap my head around it. Anyone out there that loves to dabble in the culinary world that has found some alternatives to glutenous staples, please, lay them on me! Quinoa seems to be a versatile ingredient and I'm about to get started experimenting with it, but I'm sure there are some others out there!

Thank you to everyone who reads this and/or posts. I appreciate your plight...always have, being in the food business...and even though I was reaching out for others in the industry, I'd love to hear from anyone and everyone with tips for the newbie:)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Kjas Newbie

I used to work in the food industry and I had to quit. I fell back on my major and found a job relevant to that though I still love to cook.

Chances are good that you are going to get glutened at work, particularly since they make bread. It's up to you, but I would be looking for another job in a gluten free restaurant or perhaps somewhere where flour will not be constantly in the air. It's your decision at the end of the day but it's also your health you're talking about here.

As far as cooking goes, there are so many things we put up on our plates that really don't need to be there for nutritional or taste reasons. I would go right back to scratch and the basics.

Example: Duck with greens, butternut squash, tomato salsa and pomegranate sauce

If you really take it back to basics you will probably find that not only do you eat better than before in terms of nutrition, but you're probably going to get your tongue used to natural tastes again where there's plenty of nice, strong, tasty food that does not require gluten at all. Getting back to those basics was the best thing I did, instead of trying to to replace gluten everywhere it would have been before.

Replicating gluteny things is possible, however they're best eaten occasionally as treats, a way to make sure you don't feel deprived. Once you don't feel deprived, you will crave them a lot less. I think everyone wants pizza and pancakes in the beginning still, it's normal and it will pass.

Things like quinoa are good to use, but you have to remember they are something you can't use to replace gluten with. It has a taste and flavour that is mild and a little nutty but it also soaks up other flavours well. Rice is probably the most versatile non gluten grain due to the number of ways it can be prepared, but it's usually best as a side dish not as the main part of the meal. We have a section for cooking or baking and for gluten free ingredients on the forum where you can always go to ask questions or get ideas, since there are quite a few of us here who love food.

Gourmet food does not have to go out the window because you can't eat gluten. I still host dinner parties where most of the guests have no idea everything is gluten free and none of them have ever complained.

Avalon451 Apprentice

Hi,PB, welcome!

First of all, have you been tested yet? If not, you probably want to get a full celiac blood panel run, to make sure you're heading in the right direction. You do NOT want to go gluten-free before you get this panel-- and if it comes up positive and you go for an endoscopy, you still have to stay glutened for that. If you go gluten-free before you test, it can cause false negatives in the blood test-- which already has a reputation for a lot of false negatives, anyway.

Second, DANG, man, Panera Bread with celiac? I love that place, but if it isn't already making you sick as a dog, it's going to once you do get diagnosed and go gluten-free. You usually get MORE sensitive to gluten the longer you're off it. It's really hard to think of changing jobs in today's economy, but this might be a good time to look into working for a gluten-free bakery or something. Or going with a corporate desk job. Bummer.

Third, I wouldn't automatically assume that you know all of what you can/can't eat or be around. Start researching... there are tons of links on this website to all kinds of help, info, blogs... you'll find some links to fabulous cooking blogs to help you out with your culinary explorations. As a lifelong cook and baker myself, I'm enjoying the new experiences in the kitchen, too.

Best of luck to you! Hope you are feeling better soon.

rosetapper23 Explorer

I have a friend with celiac who worked in the baking industry for years. He became sicker and sicker and didn't know what was causing his illness. After he was diagnosed with celiac, he realized that all the flour might be making him ill, so he quit. Even so, he can hardly tolerate eating anything after two years, and he has to wear a mask just to go to the grocery store because even the slightest flour in the air makes him ill. He strongly believes that working in a flour-laden industry caused his extreme reaction to gluten.

Juliebove Rising Star

Sorry to say that you can't be gluten free and work around gluten. If you are working with flour it is in the air and it is getting on your skin and you are breathing it in.

love2travel Mentor

Greetings from a fellow food person. Although I have celiac, I continue to be a professional recipe teser as well as teach cooking classes. At first it was difficult for me to mentally come to terms with my diagnosis as I was in denial but after a few months it became just a normal part of my daily life. In fact, my diagnosis has forced me to become even more creative with menu planning and so on. It is a pleasure to experiment with chestnut, hazelnut, teff, garfava, sweet potato, millet, etc. flours and to learn about their characteristics in baked products. It has actually made me a smarter and more aware cook/baker than ever before. :D

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,133
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Exhausted-momma
    Newest Member
    Exhausted-momma
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @rei.b,  I understand how frustrating starting a new way of eating can be.  I tried all sorts of gluten-free processed foods and just kept feeling worse.  My health didn't improve until I started the low histamine AIP diet.  It makes a big difference.   Gluten fits into opioid receptors in our bodies.  So, removing gluten can cause withdrawal symptoms and reveals the underlying discomfort.  SIBO can cause digestive symptoms.  SIBO can prevent vitamins from being absorbed by the intestines.  Thiamine insufficiency causes Gastrointestinal Beriberi (bloating, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea or constipation).  Thiamine is the B vitamin that runs out first because it can only be stored for two weeks.  We need more thiamine when we're sick or under emotional stress.  Gastric Beriberi is under recognised by doctors.  An Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test is more accurate than a blood test for thiamine deficiency, but the best way to see if you're low in thiamine is to take it and look for health improvement.  Don't take Thiamine Mononitrate because the body can't utilize it well.  Try Benfotiamine.  Thiamine is water soluble, nontoxic and safe even at high doses.  I thought it was crazy, too, but simple vitamins and minerals are important.  The eight B vitamins work together, so a B Complex, Benfotiamine,  magnesium and Vitamin D really helped get my body to start healing, along with the AIP diet.  Once you heal, you add foods back in, so the AIP diet is worth doing for a few months. I do hope you'll consider the AIP diet and Benfotiamine.
    • captaincrab55
      Imemsm, Most of us have experienced discontinued, not currently available or products that suddenly become seasonal.   My biggest fear about relocating from Maryland to Florida 5 years ago, was being able to find gluten-free foods that fit my restricted diet.  I soon found out that the Win Dixie and Publix supper markets actually has 99% of their gluten-free foods tagged, next to the price.  The gluten-free tags opened up a  lot of foods that aren't actually marked gluten-free by the manufacture.  Now I only need to check for my other dietary restrictions.  Where my son lives in New Hartford, New York there's a Hannaford Supermarket that also has a gluten-free tag next to the price tag.  Hopefully you can locate a Supermarket within a reasonable travel distance that you can learn what foods to check out at a Supermarket close to you.  I have dermatitis herpetiformis too and I'm very sensitive to gluten and the three stores I named were very gluten-free friendly.  Good Luck 
    • rei.b
      Okay well the info about TTG-A actually makes a lot of sense and I wish the PA had explained that to me. But yes, I would assume I would have intestinal damage from eating a lot of gluten for 32 years while having all these symptoms. As far as avoiding gluten foods - I was definitely not doing that. Bread, pasta, quesadillas (with flour tortillas) and crackers are my 4 favorite foods and I ate at least one of those things multiple times a day e.g. breakfast with eggs and toast, a cheese quesadilla for lunch, and pasta for dinner, and crackers and cheese as a before bed snack. I'm not even kidding.  I'm not really big on sugar, so I don't really do sweets. I don't have any of those conditions.  I am not sure if I have the genes or not. When the geneticist did my genetic testing for EDS this year, I didn't think to ask for him to request the celiac genes so they didn't test for them, unfortunately.  I guess another expectation I had is  that if gluten was the issue, the gluten-free diet would make me feel better, and I'm 3 months in and that hasn't been the case. I am being very careful and reading every label because I didn't want to screw this up and have to do gluten-free for longer than necessary if I end up not having celiac. I'm literally checking everything, even tea and anything else prepacked like caramel dip. Honestly its making me anxious 😅
    • knitty kitty
      So you're saying that you think you should have severe intestinal damage since you've had the symptoms so long?   DGP IgG antibodies are produced in response to a partial gluten molecule.  This is different than what tissue transglutaminase antibodies are  produced in response to.   TTg IgA antibodies are produced in the intestines in response to gluten.  The tTg IgA antibodies attack our own cells because a structural component in our cell membranes resembles a part of gluten.  There's a correlation between the level of intestinal damage with the level of tTg antibodies produced.  You are not producing a high number of tTg IgA antibodies, so your level of tissue damage in your intestines is not very bad.  Be thankful.   There may be reasons why you are not producing a high quantity of tTg IgA antibodies.  Consuming ten grams or more of gluten a day for two weeks to two months before blood tests are done is required to get sufficient antibody production and damage to the intestines.  Some undiagnosed people tend to subconsciously avoid lots of gluten.  Cookies and cakes do not contain as much gluten as artisan breads and thick chewy pizza crust.  Anemia, diabetes and thiamine deficiency can affect IgA antibody production as well.   Do you carry genes for Celiac?  They frequently go along with EDS.
    • rei.b
      I was tested for celiac at the same time, so I wasn't taking naltrexone yet. I say that, because I don't. The endoscopy showed some mild inflammation but was inconclusive as to celiac disease. They took several biopsies and that's all that was shown. I was not given a Marsh score.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.