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Mint Intolerance


Juliebove

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Juliebove Rising Star

I know to avoid anytihng that says it has mint in it. I have to check labels now for lip and tooth products and I realize that a lot of tooth things do contain mint even though it is not listed.

But what about other things that are in the mint family that are not actually mint? Like oregano and chia seeds? I don't think these things are causing a probem. Does anyone know?


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pricklypear1971 Community Regular

Do you have a salicylate issue?

I may have an issue with mint oil, or processed mint oil, or maybe not mint at all (toothpaste is ok).

Specifically I have a problem with Andes Mints and Junior Mints, but nothing else made with those ingredients listed - but made by other manufacturers.

I haven't noticed a problem with any herbs, even fresh mint.

But oh wow the junior mints and Andes. Oh wow.

So, I don't think it's impossible to have an issue with one herb but not another in the same family. But I would be cautious.

Juliebove Rising Star

Do you have a salicylate issue?

I may have an issue with mint oil, or processed mint oil, or maybe not mint at all (toothpaste is ok).

Specifically I have a problem with Andes Mints and Junior Mints, but nothing else made with those ingredients listed - but made by other manufacturers.

I haven't noticed a problem with any herbs, even fresh mint.

But oh wow the junior mints and Andes. Oh wow.

So, I don't think it's impossible to have an issue with one herb but not another in the same family. But I would be cautious.

Not that I know of. Being diabetic, I don't usually eat a lot of candy. Chocolate bothers my GERD and Junior Mints contain egg which I am severely intolerant to. Andes contain dairy and I am intolerant to that as well. I didn't know that mint was a problem for me. I just learned of it on my last testing.

Mint was not something I really consumed much of. Once in a while a hard peppermint candy or Tic Tac but since mint is not good for GERD I generally stayed away from it. It was in my toothpaste though and some lips balms and glosses that I had.

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Not that I know of. Being diabetic, I don't usually eat a lot of candy. Chocolate bothers my GERD and Junior Mints contain egg which I am severely intolerant to. Andes contain dairy and I am intolerant to that as well. I didn't know that mint was a problem for me. I just learned of it on my last testing.

False positives are common on every sort of food intolerance test. If mint is not a problem for you, don't worry about the test results.

Juliebove Rising Star

False positives are common on every sort of food intolerance test. If mint is not a problem for you, don't worry about the test results.

I don't know if it's a problem or not. Something was a problem. Or some things. I eliminated all 21 things and several problems have cleared up. Mint is not that hard to avoid. So for now I will avoid it.

Skylark Collaborator

Gotcha! Good to hear several problems have cleared up. That's great news. :) What kind of testing was it?

To answer your question on mint, spearmint, peppermint, hyssop, melissa (lemon balm), and pennyroyal are closely related so you would need to avoid all of those.

If you want to test eliminating all the Lamiaceae the list gets a lot bigger. Basil, rosemary, sage, savory, marjoram, oregano, thyme, lavender, and chia as well as all the mints. I don't know of any vegetables or fruits from that family.

You might find this article interesting.

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Juliebove Rising Star

Gotcha! Good to hear several problems have cleared up. That's great news. :) What kind of testing was it?

To answer your question on mint, spearmint, peppermint, hyssop, melissa (lemon balm), and pennyroyal are closely related so you would need to avoid all of those.

If you want to test eliminating all the Lamiaceae the list gets a lot bigger. Basil, rosemary, sage, savory, marjoram, oregano, thyme, lavender, and chia as well as all the mints. I don't know of any vegetables or fruits from that family.

You might find this article interesting.

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Thanks! It was hair testing. The results said mint, thyme and marjoram. Daughter can't have basil or marjoram but can have the others. So I think I want to eliminate only those things with mint in the name.


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Skylark Collaborator

Thanks! It was hair testing. The results said mint, thyme and marjoram. Daughter can't have basil or marjoram but can have the others. So I think I want to eliminate only those things with mint in the name.

Really? And you're feeling better? I'm intrigued.

Juliebove Rising Star

Really? And you're feeling better? I'm intrigued.

I don't think my daughter has noticed a difference but then she got to mainly add things to her diet. The only things she can't have that she could have before are some nuts she never ate, coconut and a few herbs.

I had a weird sort of nasal thing. Like a tickle/itch that would never go away and weird, watery nose bleeds that got more and more frequent and harder to stop.

I had also gained weight, had swelling in my fingers and weird bowel issues. I could never be far from a toilet.

All that stuff went away.

We were also tested for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. I just had blood work done and it seemed to match up with what I had done at the Dr. But I think the hair testing one was more in depth.

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Anne Newbie

You can verify this at the Doctor Oz site I believe. In one segment he mentioned avoiding mint because it relaxes the muscle above the stomach, increasing chance of acid reflux.

Anne

Juliebove Rising Star

You can verify this at the Doctor Oz site I believe. In one segment he mentioned avoiding mint because it relaxes the muscle above the stomach, increasing chance of acid reflux.

Anne

That's true. I wasn't eating mint but it was in my toothpaste.

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