gfp

Hi my Uncle sent me an email to translate for my cousin in Geneva who doesn't speak French ,...

I got it except one word...

acetabulaire....

Anyone any clues

context ....

colonne lombaire

bon respect de l'alignement des murs posterieurs.

le bassin est bien equilibre

hypoplaise des douziemes cotes

discopathies moderees etages predominant en L6-L5 et L5-S1.visible sous forme de pincement des espaces inter-somatiques et d'une osteophytose marginale debutanta des plateaux vertebraux adjacents.

il n'y a pas d'alteration morphologique des corps vertebraux

dimensions normales du canal rachidien

hemisacralisation de la L5 gauche

bassin

il n'y a pas d'anomalie de la structure osseuse

element de comblement osseux visible a la jonction tete-col superieure des deux cotes pouvant correler un conflit femoro-acetabulaire

petite calcification acetabulaire visible du cote droit

ebauche d'arthrose sacro-iliaque bilaterale

pas de calcification pathologique decelable.

Hi everyone, today i went to see a dietician. Unfortunately she told me not to go on a gluten free diet till i have my biopsy taken. I gave blood last week and the results have not come back yet. The dietician is chasing up the resluts for me and arranging a biopsy date. In the meantime i have been told to eat gluten to make sure the results are correct.

The thing is, i dont really want to cause any more damage if i have to. has anyone been through the same. Is there something i can do to make sure i get enough gluten in the shortest time possible.

Also, has anyone on a gluten diet had the bloodtest and biopsy and they came back negative????

Ideally i want to get a date through and then start eating gluten but dont know if it will be long enough?

3 Choices....

1/ Go private get the results sooner

2/ Don't have the biopsy ... go off the blood tests...

3/ Pay for it yourself and jump on easyjet.. get it done here the same day...thoiugh if your cute about it you can claim it back via the NHS with the correct form if you got taken ill by emergency....

Incidentally if you had the blood test here you get the results the same day if the test is done in the morning... it costs about 60 quid for a celiac panel .. biopsy I have no idea...how much and how long.. the staining and examination is liely to take at least overnight...

If it is sold in the US, any product MUST list wheat. So, in terms of "other spices"---it can NOT contain wheat unless it was listed.

You can quote rule until your blue in the face but its not me you are trying to tell but some manufactuerer in India...

As she stated the powder was imported from India...

Secondly it doesn't really matter if the raw spices already contain gluten ... Who in the Flower brand factory is really going to bother checking.... when half the country is so poor they would eat wheat stalks if they could get hold of them...

I suspect youi have never been to India...I have and I somehow doubt this is foremost on their mind when they package stuff to ship off and sell... Sorry that's not meant to be an insult, I spent nearly half my life in the 3rd world... and the main thing is you can't expect things work in the same way as they do in developed nations....

Sometimes this stuff gets analysed... sometimes it doesn't and sometimes they guy selling the fengureek to flowerbrand might use chick pea flour and other times wheat??? Open Original Shared Link

OK that's Canadian but they still have hundreds of undelacred allergens EVEN on domestic food, let alone imported... the difference is they actually randomly test them....I somehow doubt the US is any better???

If they imported seperate spices and paid whomever will work for less than $1 an hour.. to pack it that they pay in India then they may analyse the raw ingredients but this brand is imported as is...

The average wage in India is about $50 a month... you really don't get modern analysis and stuff they just can't afford it... most people can't afford water without salmonella, let alone the luxury of avoiding wheat...

I'd recommend you look through a few cookbooks and pick out recipes that you want to try, then make your list.

couldn't agree more... no point us making a list that allows you to nearly make 101 things but not quite

Generally, the intestinal damage will cause the antibodies to show up in the blood.

But many here have had positive bloodwork and a negative biopsy (damage is easily missed), and there are others who've had negative bloodwork and a positive biopsy. The bloodwork is not terribly reliable. Which shows that neither one is very reliable, and trying the diet is the best test of them all. Because if you aren't intolerant to gluten, you won't get better. But if you are intolerant, the diet will make a big difference in your wellbeing.

Blood work can be unreliable but usually because the correct procedures are followed...

When they are and a FULL suite is taken they are over 98% reliable....

Its not that you are wrong.. unfortunately your correct... but that is largely down to the MD's who don't realise we need to eat gluten or MD's who only specify partial tests etc.

Hassi-----zzgxz has a paper somewhere where they managed to get some dead bodies and do post mortems (He has so many I can't find it right now)... but the correleation between blood and post mortem examination of villi was 98%+...

This is the other problem on reliability of blood tests.... many +ve blood tests and negative biopsy and instead of the Dr. accepting they missed the damaged villi they say the blood tests are inacurrate.... add to this the numbers done on children where we know them to be unreliable...

Its completely possible of course there are better tests and the current full panel does miss the odd person... even under the best circumstances.... but I just wanted to say the IMPORTANT thing is to do it correctly... if you don't get a full panel and its -ve its pretty useless.... +ve always means positive (except for 1:10,000 of human error) ... even if its just to some degree but -ve can mean bad procedures, not eating gluten, patient too young... etc. etc.

On the whole Curry should be gluten-free....

The problem is often fillers.... a classic is fenguereek (sp)... which is very strong and bitter... you only need a TINY amount and people don't like paying per milligram (saffron perhaps excluded)... so its not unknown for them to use filler...

Obviously developing world counties can't afford to be as fastidious about this as us....

On the plus side its just a possibility...

Equally curry powder is easy to make yourself... however you have to find the ingredients...

If you can find them in decent sizes (like an Indian family would buy) they are ridiculously cheap....

The hard part is collecting them all

Since you enjoyed this so much!!!!! I'm thinking it must be worth a bit of time investment for ya

A UK brand Pataks lists potential gluten, its mainly pastes... which is just the powder and oil...

I use them for a quck easy curry... I love curry

However I also make my own mixes... its no0t hard in itself...like I say its finding the ingredients... its REALLY easy in England because we have lots of great Indian immigrants who sell them real cheap so much its our new national dish....

There is a set of books (and products) by some guy called Pat Chapman... the self appointed head of the Curry Club of GB.

He makes a decent living I guess as well... HOWEVER.. the books are really good.... because they start off with a list of raw ingredients.. the initial recipees are actually just making mixes of spices... etc. like garam marsala's that are used again and again in the recipees.... once you make them up and bag or tupperware them the recipees are dead easy...

He also has recipes for accompanyments and chutneys etc. almost everything is gluten-free except some of the indian breads and these I tend to use gluten-free mix and they work....

They aren't so expensive and

The curry dish I made was delicious, and I used lots of curry powder.

given your enthusiasm you can easily recoup the price of the book on what you pay for 2-3 packets of pre-mixed stuff ....

On top of that its hundreds of different ones.. from a white chicken and almond korma to firey red hot ones.. (though the extra beauty is you can easily adjust the spicyness)...

So many of us have been diagnosed with IBS for oh so many years. That may be the precursor to Celiac where the trigger is needed. What happenes in the transition from IBS to Celiac Disease? Is it a weaked system or over-heated regarding the defense system? Does that make sense?

I know that IBS is not a diagnosis, but why do so many of us have the symptoms which eventually become Celiac Disease?

It depends what you call IBS I guess.... it seems to be a diagnisis of "we don't really know" ???

My theory is that we are destroying villi all the time... but the repair faster than we destroy them, then when the trigger happens the body can't keep up... some other forms of IBS probably exist but I seem to remember a whole load of IBS patients (well above normal) actually are celiac but just not diagnosed and when they take the blood tests they show up.

No scientific basis here but based on comments I've read...

Some possible explanations:

1) The celiac was dormat and then started due to some trigger (as mentioned above)

2) The celiac wasn't dormant but you were asymptomatic (possible villi damage that wasn't tested for). This is most likely in an otherwise healthy person whose body is able to compensate. The trigger in this case is not causing the celiac but interferring with the compensating.

The problem is that there is little research into celiac in people who don't have any symptoms.

Tim, exactly what I was going to post....

I think for most people they probably did have celiac disease but the symptoms were not severe...

The reason for saying this is many of us actually find out after going gluten-free that little things we put down to everyone having or old age etc. then clear up...

I think the trigger can be what tips the balance... but its like you so not really scientific.

gfp thanks for the post, please can you elaborate on number 3 where you say the repair process is bad for you, some will always be just repaired?

What i dont understand is if i have been eating gluten for 28 years and only 7 months ago did i start getting a sore stomach (and other symptoms)could that mean that i have only just become gluten intolerant, or have i always been intolerant and not know it? after 7 months ago i had been fine, it was only after a very stressful period did my stomach start hurting. i have had this pain 2 years ago but only for a month.

Ok... but don't get paranoid....this is theory...

Cells repair by dividing and replicating (its termed mytosis).

The actual replication is a little recipee, it follows the instructions in the DNA... however it can make mistakes...

When it starts making mistakes one outcome is cancer... the more you force cells to divide and repair the higher the chance of the replication going wrong and hence cancer. (that's Cancer 101)

Some cells are made to die off and repair daily, like the stomach lining hence evolution has provided us with a simple cell that replicates with less errors.. the villi are not evolved to repair all the time so forcing them to repair more often or near constantly means higher risk of cancer...

On top of this simply constantly repairing your body and stressing your imune system is bad for you, the thyroid gets tired etc.

Dear corinne, gfp, and RiceGuy,

This is fascinating information! Thank you for the links, gfp! I know arsenic is present in our drinking water here. I doubt it is organic, though. We also have an abnormally high cancer rate in this area. I am worried right now, since our water purification system broke, I have had to drink tap water. My body does not need anymore poison in it! Chlorine is not healthy, either.

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

NoGluGirl.. check the links onthe USGS.... they provide a lot of free information...!

Chlorine might not be great but typhoid is much worse..... I know because I got it from untreated drinking water...

If people want piped water to their houses in a country as big as America then I think some compromises have to be made...

Remember 3/4 of the word don't even have access to clean drinking water at all!

You need to be very careful with teas. I only use ones that say gluten free on the label. Celestial Seasonings makes a number of gluten free teas and will label the ones that are gluten-free. Many teas especially herbal and flavored teas are not gluten-free so please make sure they are safe.

Im not a big fan of English tea (despite being English in origin)... but I do like green teas and some other types like Russian ..

Mostly I buy a good quality basic tea and then add my own stuff.... right now a fav is lemongrass and ginger green tea... I buy the basic but best quality green teas (nothing but tea) and then add my own ginger and lemon grass...

I actually just put ginger and lemon grass aside when cooking (parts not to be cooked) let em dry out and then add these to the tea...

i second the avocado

coconut milk

fish

I'll third avocado .....

If your not dairy free then chilli with lots of cheese, sour cream and gaucamole piles on calories ....

However overall if you are trying to gain weight smaller but more frequent meals are better...

Especially for celiacs, add a lot of fat and we can find it hard to digest.... so simple easy to digest stuff tends to be better...

Yep it works.... it all depends on the roux really as to which type of gluten-free flour works best...

As a general rule I find rice flour works best for really light ones and more robust ones a bit of corn or even heavier added buckwheat flour... if the rest of the flavors are subtle then rice flour can be better than real flour...

1/ Open Original Shared Link

2/ No intestines

3/ Yes and no.... they will self repair but the repair process is bad for you.... so some will always be just repaired etc.

4/ gluten doesn't damage the villi, our antibodies do. The process is just more complex.... one spark can cause a forest fire or it can just burn out... or it can do a certain amount of damage 1st... it all depends on "other factors" ... like if its dry.. wind direction etc. and destroying villi is like that... if you only have a few left it might take out the last ones... if your otherwise healthy it might take out a few...

Does this cause diarrhea or can someone still have soild stools at this stage. the reason why i as is because my stools seem fine.

Some people even get consipation.. its not so black and white...

Here in Texas, you must have a new prescription every year to buy new eyeglasses or contact lenses. Not only that, I wanted to purchase a different brand of contact for my son (he had colored lenses and we wanted to go to clear). Well, the "store" (they make a phony attempt to physically separate the vision place from the main store by a door, as it's required to be a separate entity by law) at Walmart wanted to charge me a fee the same amount as the examination just to change the prescription.

Needless to say, I told them where they could shove it and that they would'nt be getting any more of my business (the optometrist, not Walmart, got's to have my Walmart). What a ripoff.

Back on topic. There must be some balance of our right to obtain supplements, and the governments duty to ensure said supplements are safe and not allowed to make wild claims as to the medical effectiveness of the product. In the late 1800's and early 1900's, products were sold claiming to cure any and all ailments, and sometimes were mostly only alcolhol, maybe some morphine, stuff like that. If they were allowed to, supplement makers would make all kinds of BS claims.

So if you go back and carefully read the health rangers interpetations of the proposed regulations, it's obvious (to me anyway) that he is seriously misrepresenting the intent, and outright lying about the consequences. At least that's my opinion.

gfp, you said:

"The one pattern I always find true is that when an industry puts forwards the regulations its always to their advantage and the consumer is an afterthought."

You got that right. I don't trust corporate America one inch. Maximum profit is their God.

best regards, lm

Larry, the bottom line is you have to trust someone... ?

corporate America isn't evil... its just doing what it does... the purpose of compnaies is to maximise profit, pure and simple...

Where this gets complex is who should regulate? This is pretty much divided between the market regulating itself and someone presumably government or elected bodies ....

The problem with self-regulation is illustrated by your snake oil example...

Specifically talking about medicine sick people will try most things, dying people almost anything...

One stance is that its OK, if people are stupid enough to think the cure-all will cure cancer its their fault.... ultimately that its OK to advertise cigarettes to kids and give out cigarette candy to schools....

The other camp say's its not acceptable to prey on people who are desperate....or try and get kids used to smoking at school...

Its not so simple as right and wrong.... but I think one has to admit that self regulation rarely works because each company is competing with others... selling snake oil to the cancer victim ... well presumably people will not buy what doesn't work but then morphine probably does make them feel better... its also addictive... so apart from todays illegality would it be a problem? My personal feeling is that it is if it stops them getting real treatment might actually save their lives.... hard line capitalists would say it doesn't matter... they die and the market shrinks... hence automatic self regualtion.???

I'm not really of the opinion this is what Adam Smith meant by market self-regulation ....

I think the biggest problem and its more acute in the US perhaps is the issue of lobbying...

What used to be issues such as the ability of a state to transport a food crop elsewhere has now been completely changed because the issues have changed... we are talking about things the senators can't understand like pharmacutical products you need to be an expert to understand... so what it being presented is easily twisted ...

Its a tough call, look at medical lobbying.... should a doctor endorse a product they beleive is ineffective if the company offer to donate a expensive machine to the hospital? That machine might save dozens of lives... so is it ethical for a MD to turn it down because they have doubts over the efficincy of some pharmacutical product?

Its a mine field.... if we ban practicing MD's from endorsing product perhaps some good ones won't get used?

shan: Its relatively common (but stupid) for the person with the gene to blame themselves....its not something you have any control over... apportioning blame is pointless!

Its relatively uncommon for families to actually blame the one carrying the gene....

In all probability you are more likely to find problems the family believing in celiac disease at all than blaming you...

Apart from anything else its still as likely he also has the genes... or partial ones anyway...

celiac disease isn't some death sentence, its not even serious if you follow the gluten-free diet....

If you looked hard enough you will probably find both of you passed on genes that will affect the health of the child... and probably more will be discovered... and this is quite outside celiac disease... If he's caucasian and normal European stock he has a 50% chance of carrying the gene anyway BUT ... its so pointless thinking of this in terms of blame...

i have all the symtoms and he has a normal system

The vast majority of people with the gene never develop celiac disease...

Cool. Now that you mention it, bleach does make the water slippery doesn't it?

Good to know. Thanks.

Nancy

The "soapy" feel is because bleach is an alkali ... I don't know specifically about gluten but the reaction of bleach with most organic matter is to produce trihalomethanes, most of which are carcinogenic.

Not to be too panic mongering but under sunlight one of the possible byproducts is phosgene gas.

However bleach isn't an efficent ionic desurficant (which is the action being described) compared to normal dishwashing liquid...

Anyway, specifically to gluten I don't know which is most efficient I just wouldn't want to rely on bleach...

I don't think it can hurt to use your old prescription, however, mine has changed significantly over the past few years and I also have an astigmatism. I have two old pairs of glasses and a new pair; I see significantly better from the new pair, but the old pairs were fine when they were new.

The funny thing is its not a simple case...

On the face of it the idea is that it forces people to get checked for glaucoma etc.

Doubtless there is some truth in this and doubtless some people may have had their eyesight saved or diabetes diagnosed because of this.

However at the same time the opticians make a fortune...

My problem wiuth this is two fold.... firstly (but not most importantly) it should be my choice to be tested...

Secondly ... this would never have happened unless opticians had pressured the government and stood to make money from it...

Like the example earlier with unpasturised cheese... thge legislation usually means someone is making money out of it...

Sometimes its not so bad sometimes it is like the milk in schools... but almost always someone ismaking money from the legislation.

Some of the proposals the paper puts forwards sound unlikely ... however when there is enough money in it even the most outlandish ones can get passed... indeed the more outlandish the easier sometimes...

The one pattern I always find true is that when an industry puts forwards the regulations its always to their advantage and the consumer is an afterthought.

from what I've read, some other countries like Germany and Norway have even stricter regulations currently on things such as vitamin E, which now require prescriptions, are much more costly, and the person is limited in terms of how much vitamin E they can get with the prescription... and I think these limitations are essentially based on RDA type values... this all ties into Codex, which appears to be the greatest worldwide concern in this area

Very true.... I lived in Norway for 2 yrs.... you can't buy OTC multivits except stuff so weak its not worth buying... (basically less than you'd get in a can of V8)...

In the recent past the UK has stopped OTC pain medication except in bottles of less than 16... and this is just the weakest Ibuprofen or tylenol etc.

Even in a pharmacy you can only buy so much... and its not a lot...

Having spent a lot of time in the 3rd world I often wanted to be able to buy stocks of stuff like cold medication or tylenol etc. just to have around... "hmm can't sell you those sorry"

In the UK you can't buy glasses without a prescription under 2yrs old and in France 1 yr. ???

How can it be good to deny people glasses?

If anyone notioced my spelling going to pot, its my eyes, I lost my glasses 4 yrs ago ... and refuse to be tested so I am unable to buy them, even though my prescription for astigmatism probably stays the same? How can it hurt to let me buy my old prescription? Least any more than having no glasses at all?

Thank you for posting this.

Does that mean that the Mesa Sunrise cereal sold in the US is safe or not? The ones sold here are also 300 grams, but they don't have a best-before date or anything labeled as a batch #.

This is frustrating--it's my favorite cereal!!

Ack... you're OK.. it happens to be my favorite too....

Okay ... if you say so. The statement wasn't about me, but about the author of the article - I understand that. I must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed.

Fajitas... its not MY OPINION about the author of the article..

I personally believe he is over stating the case but I don't think he's off his trolley...

<<---HUGS--->>

What I find (and I shouldn't because its centuries old) is society as a whole viewing anyone who challenges their government bodies, food companies or whoever is some militant idiot....

Without idiots like Franklin and Columbus where would we be?

My opinion is people in general are pre-disposed to beleive what they want... that is what my signature say's... and it was written 2000 yrs ago... and nothing has changed...

The world needs more people like you.... it even needs more people like the author perhaps... the problem I see is because the large majority are already pre-disposed to treating anyone with a new idea or challenging the government as wacko conspiracy theorists many many important things are just classed along with alien abductions and Elvis being alive on the moon...

I haven't checked out each claim he makes about the FDA but I do know several are true...

The problem I see is that when people do try and state the point instead of understating it the huge majority love to jump on any parts that might be incorrect...

I'll give a perfect example... some people were sue'd by McDo's in the UK for giving out literature against McDo's..

They had about 20 points.... out of these 15 or so were indisputable... but McDo's sued thenm anyway because the remaining 5 were debateable... or unprovable...

What do the majoirty see in this case... ?

Unfortunately that McDo's were correct...

The fact that 15/20 of the points were undisputably true is forgotten... and all 20 are dismissed... even though 15 were definately true and the remaining 5 were probably true but unprovable...?

Hold on here! gfp is AGREEING with you! Please do not take offense. The comment gfp made was to express a common belief, not his own. And that believing in something which most people do not shouldn't place that person in such opposition with the majority as to be labeled unkindly.

Is this correct gfp?

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heh...seems we posted simultaneously...

Exactly!

I think its extremely regretable that if you question the FDA your classed as some revolutionary pinko commie or some fringe revolutionary trying to bring down the government...

However... like I just said this is hardly new!

I do wish people would actualy read what I say and not read the first line and get upset before they actually finish reading!

By everything I said I must be a complete wacko... ???

You know, gfp, this is the 2nd time you've made me feel I have no right to ask a question. I'm not a "whacko". I'm just a girl who found out a few months ago that things ingested and eaten is most likely the reason for the years of mental and physical problems I've had. I was raised not to question authority. I've recently found that my father wasn't right about everything.

I don't "believe" what was in that article, and, again, I have to point out that I was asking a question. I'm so new to this. Your condescending tone is really unneccessary.

If you hadn't done this to me before, I wouldn't have internalized it, but you have.

I won't further comment on this, as I apparently have no right to do so.

If you don't believe the article then how could it be referring to you?

The point I'm trying to make is that with this or the other thread one has to be considered part of a whacko minority by the majority...

I can't quite see how you mistake ? unless you just want to? Why are you angry at me for pointing out many people think you are wacko? Its not my fault they don't realise celiac disease is real and gluten a toxin... .. its not me giving you that sniggering look and thinking your on some health fad diet?

The point is that in the eyes of the majority we are all whacko's... who else would believe that wheat could be a toxin?

I'm not saying you are a wacko... I'm saying many people will consider you one whether its because you believe wheat can be toxic or you believe the majority of the worlds climate scientists...

Back in 1492 a Whacko set sail from Europe.... he had some whacko notion the world was round... everyone thought he was mad.

Even though he had a lot of evidence that the world was round.... almost everyone rejected the idea of a round earth because everyone else rejected the idea and everyone knew the world was flat.

In 1750 The First American wacko went out in a thunderstorm with a kite and a key... ?

There is a long list of famous Wacko's.... Marshal was completely out of his tree when he suggested heliobacter pylori could cause ulcers... almost as Wacko as Lister suggesting surgeons washing their hands and sterilising equipment could prevent post operative infections?

gfp,

Yes, the FDA is crooked as can be. They just passed new rules limiting some of the permissable "consultant" fees and other "kickbacks in disquise" that occurs. Not sure when they go into effect or if it got final approval or whatnot.

And of course the guy probably has lots of valid points and even may be correct in some of his health claims. But, he goes so overboard in exagerating and misrepresenting some of that stuff that he loses all credibility. I was mainly commenting on the article linked in the original post.

rg,

My Dad says that when margarine first came out they were not allowed to sell it colored yellow ( being just oil, it is white) . A little yellow ball came with it and you had to "kneed" it into the white margarine until it was all mixed up. He said the butter lobby got the restriction implemented to make sure the margarine was unappealing compared to butter.

best regards, lm

Larry, couldn't agree more....

Its a shame ... its like I say on the "green thread" you practically have to be a "whacko" to actually believe this... ???

When I was at school in the UK we were force fed milk... literally forced, if you didn't drink it the teachers would assult you and hold your nose while squirting it down your throat...

This is milk, one of the top ten allergens!

So far as I know children are still forced to drink milk in public (american terminology) schools... regardless of the fact the UK has an obesity epidemic!

You just said what I've been thinking. I have consistently been gluten since I started going gluten-free. I just found the source, Malt o Meal cereal that used to be gluten free. I must have read that it was gluten free on an old web site. That just made me mad.

Hang in there! You are not alone.

Jo R. This is so typical.... I did exactly the same....except for me it was some tortilla chips with CC.

Before I got sick I actually found the strength to stick with a healthy diet and was losing weight. Then i got sick during the holidays and could eat veggie anymore. Then when I went gluten free I started gaining weight. tomorrow I start the Atkins diet. I know it's not the best, but I don't like fruit and can't handle veggie very well, so at least this way I will avoid being glutened and lose weight. I'm hoping that by the time I'm sick og the diet I can eat veggie again.

Honestly (and this aplies to everyone) the best thing you can do is just eat fresh food you prepare from scratch...

The chance of accidental glutening drops to nearly nil... you eat healthy by design and by not getting accidentally glutened and if you do slip up somewhere its easy to rectify because its not the Malt o Meal cereal or tortilla chips...

I did gain weight on the gluten-free breads and cookies, but lost very quickly when I cut them out of my diet, even though I was having tons of Frito's, rice potatoes, and chocolate. Go figure!

I don't see any problem explaining that.... most of the gluten-free breads etc. are just rubbish... and nutritionaly empty but of course we try and adapt the before to after... so we end up basically basing our diet on rubbish...

even though I was having tons of Frito's, rice potatoes, and chocolate.

Being a sensible person you realise a lot of rubbish isn't good for you so you eat it in moderation... whereas stuff like the really rubbish gluten-free products we eat in desperation not as treats...

Just about the worst diet is the one you think is healthy but isn't! There's nothing wrong with the odd treat even if your aiming to loose weight so long as you regard it as a treat!