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Ingesting Gluten On A Non-gluten Diet
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I have been on the diet for a month now, but was taking communion and messed up a few times the first couple of weeks. I missed a weekend of church, so I actually went 2 weeks with no gluten at all. Then this weekend (on saturday night) I had communion again (afterwards found out they keep gluten free wafers for celiacs in a back room...yay!!!). I didn't have diareha (sp?) and sunday I seemed fine, but monday I was drug-down tired again, almost threw-up, and just felt sick. I still have not felt very good today, and I have been constipated again since friday, even though I have been taking my fiber. Does anyone think this was a reaction? I am not completely well yet, but I can tell that I have been getting better (at least until yesterday). I have been very extremely careful about what I eat the past few weeks (except at communion). Just looking for input, because I thought people usually have diareha when they have a reaction. I have felt just horrible! Thanks!

Deanna

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Hi Deanna:

If you are supposed to be adhering to a gluten-free and you are ingesting gluten then I would say that is why you are feeling sick or not feeling well. Some people can have a reaction within a couple of hours and some can have it up to 10-12 hours (maybe even days) later.

I have been very extremely careful about what I eat the past few weeks (except at communion)

If you have Celiac or gluten sensitivity, even the smallest amount of gluten can damage your small intestines and can cause you to be sick and have symptoms. I would suggest getting the gluten-free wafers during your next communion. I am going to be faced with that myself soon and my church is very small and there are no gluten-free wafers available to me, so instead of punishing myself on purpose I will not be taking of the bread only the wine (I think God will understand).

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Fatigue is like the #1 sympttom of celiac disease. So that is your reacction and defenitley get the gluten-free wafers next time. Don't chance it. If your body is rejecting gluten then don't eat it, even at communion(just so you know I am not religious so I don't know much about communion?

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