Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Dh Vs Bullous Pemphigoid


lbsteenwyk

Recommended Posts

lbsteenwyk Explorer

My father has been on a gluten free diet for about a year. He tried the gluten-free diet to see if it would improve his chronic skin problems. He has a 15 year hx of itchy skin that presented as tiny blisters and then turned into red, itchy sores. This has been primarily on his back, arms and legs. The diet seemed to help at first, and by the time he had blood work, he had been gluten free for several months. His blood work was negative for celiac. Later he had a biopsy, which was also negative, but my Mom thinks the dermatologist didn't do the biopsy correctly, because it was not taken from the edge of the lesion.

Last night, my Mom called to tell me that Dad was having a terrible breakout - his back is a mass of sores. She read something in a magazine about a autoimmune skin disorder called Bullous Pemphigoid (hope I'm spelling it right), and thinks this may be his problem. His dermatologist has never been able to give him any type of satisfactory dx and he has not responded to any of the psoriasis or eczema preparations he's been given.

Does anyone have any knowlege of this disorder? Is it commonly mistaken for DH or vice versa?

I also want to comment, that I don't believe my dad has been completely gluten free. He is 78 and is getting mildly forgetful. I can think of 3 occasions that he ate obvious gluten containing foods without thinking. Most recently he ate the cone of an ice cream cone. That was 2 weeks ago. Could it take 2 weeks for a DH reaction to occur?

Any comments are appreciated.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



lovegrov Collaborator

I don't know anything about the other condition but do know about DH. After doing a search for bullous pemphigoid it does look at least somewhat similar. You also need a biopsy to confirm that one.

The blood tests for celiac disease were not valid, of course, because your father had been gluten-free or nearly so for a few months. If the dermatologist didn't do the biopsy properly that would also lead to a negative result. I don't know how long it takes DH to return after ingesting gluten, but I understand that even small mistakes can bring it back.

richard

cdford Contributor

Time till outbreak varies from person to person. There are several skin disorders that appear similar to DH or can result from undiagnosed DH. I had Sweet's Syndrome long before anyone gave a thought to celiac and DH. My daughter had one of those whose name takes up half a line and I can never remember as well.

The location of the outbreak also varies from person to person. What you described is what our DH looks like. It also has an odd, intense itch. It is different than a histamine (bug bite) itch and is more like thousands of tiny needles attacking from underneath the skin.

The location of the biopsy is important. It is also important that the specimen be handled in a specific way. We had to contact our dermatologist and advise her of an outbreak so that she could arrange for some special equipment and a special pickup from the lab. You might want to do a little research on the process and ask some specific questions of your dad about how his was handled.

  • 2 weeks later...
shanson Newbie

Tell your Dad to use emu lotion -I had that re scaly rash all over my legs and the emu oil did help - ofcourse i also stopped eating Gluten!

Sherry

Guest ajlauer

Sounded like shingles to me. Has he been treated for shingles?? I *think* that involves anti-viral medication.... but I'm not entirely sure.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      2

      Curious question

    2. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Super Sensitive People
      2

      Alarming

    3. - trents commented on Scott Adams's article in Origins of Celiac Disease
      10

      Do Antibiotics in Babies Increase Celiac Disease Risk Later in Life? (+Video)

    4. - RMJ replied to Known1's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      1

      What would you do - neighbor brought gluten-free pizza from Papa Murphy's

    5. - Colleen H posted a topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      0

      Barilla gluten free pasta

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,449
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    KeSmith
    Newest Member
    KeSmith
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jmartes71
      I APPRECIATE you validating everything because this is a nightmare and the only reason why im fighting is because I don't want future generations to deal with this bs and medical should take responsibility for their lack of actions. Autoimmune disorder aka " food allergies " should be a mandated reportable disease for the safety of the patients. 
    • Jmartes71
      Im sorry I didn't read until just now, thankyou.its pretty scary because again as I keep stating down played because of what im currently going through and validated by you guys, thank you very much for that because this is mentally challenging especially when asking, begging for medical help.In that note, I looked at my next appointment with gi whose my "new care",i thought. I had  scheduled appointment in March zoom call just to be dump, it was CANCELLED on their part! My appointment isn't there anymore! I do have appointment with Mayo clinic Tuesday on the phone. I also did talk to our local representative in Stanislaus office this past Friday, yesterday and ( Justin) thinks he knows about celiac disease. I don't think he understands because he told me he knows all about celiac! Well Justin why am I dealing with this bs in your county? Hintz the reason why I feel the need to go to city hall meeting yet I  don't have the medical  support....
    • RMJ
      I would not eat it. Some people are more sensitive to small amounts of gluten than others. Until you know how sensitive you are It is probably best to be extra careful. Is this a crustless pizza?  I looked on the Papa Murphy website, clicked on nutrition and filtered by “avoid gluten”. The only pizzas that it said were gluten free were crustless slices. Papa Murphy’s nutrition  
    • Colleen H
      Has anyone had a reaction to gluten free pasta ?  I made ground beef pasta and gluten free sauce and I'm having every symptom there is.  Nausea ,  constipated,   burning pins and needles, anxiety...etc   lots of pain 😞 headache 😭  Does this sound familiar?   I'm literally bed ridden.  
    • Known1
      Thank you for your reply.  I read the same thing about distilled water.  Oddly, drinking that has not caused any sort of reaction in my gut.  Nothing I can hear and feel anyway.  🤣  With that said, I have also switched over to spring water for drinking.  My traditional go to grocery store charges the exact same thing ($1.39) for a gallon of pre-bottled spring, distilled, or RO water.  The manual gallon refills of RO water have an attractive price of $0.49 per gallon, provided you use your own container.  Knowing it causes major bubble gut (and likely other issues) for me, I am avoiding all RO water moving forward.  In fact, I will gladly drink tap before RO water. Here is what Google says when searching "European study regarding reverse osmosis water". --Begin quote: European studies indicate that while reverse osmosis (RO) is highly effective at removing contaminants, it strips essential minerals (calcium, magnesium) and creates low-mineral, slightly acidic water.  Research suggests this may have long-term health implications, such as mineral deficiencies, while also negatively affecting the sensory quality (taste) of water. Key Findings from European Research & Reviews: Health Concerns: Epidemiological studies in Europe have associated low-mineral water consumption with increased risks of cardiovascular disease, cognitive decline, and reduced intake of essential nutrients. Mineral Depletion: RO systems can remove up to 95%+ of solutes, including minerals that are vital for health. Sensory and Quality Impact: Studies show that reducing the mineral content (TDS) of water makes it taste bitter or flat, with optimal, "fresh" taste found in water with a TDS between 190 and 350 mg/L, suggesting post-RO remineralization is necessary for better quality. Regulatory & Safety Context: While not banned, European regulations under the Drinking Water Directive emphasize the importance of mineral content, and countries like Germany often favor alternative treatment technologies that retain minerals. Industrial Application: In Europe, RO is widely accepted for industrial applications (e.g., food, beverage, pharma) due to its high purity output, but it poses challenges like membrane biofouling. Environmental Impact: RO is recognized to use more energy and waste more water (up to 15% more) compared to conventional treatment methods, raising environmental concerns in some municipalities.  Recommendations: Due to the loss of minerals, many experts recommend remineralizing RO water before drinking to improve taste and nutritional value.  --End Quote
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.