Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

9 Out Of 10 Don't React

Traveller

By Traveller
in Gluten-Free Restaurants

Recommended Posts

Traveller Rookie
Traveller
Posted

While visiting in New York I went to dinner at an East Side restaurant that happened to be a part of a large, well known national chain. I ordered a steak off of the gluten free menu and was surprised when it was delivered with au jus. I've never been served the au jus with a gluten free meal in any of the chains other restaurants.

Thinking asking was better than paying the penalty for ignorance, I asked the waiter about the au jus. He went and asked the manager, who said:

1) The au jus is naturally gluten free, but the pan in which they trap it may not be.

2) If it's contaminated, it's only a little contaminated.

3) Because 9 out of 10 of the gluten-free diners don't react to it, they serve it with the meat.

The manager offered another meal if I felt uncomfortable with the one they prepared. I accepted the offer.

I wonder how many complaints the manager gets, versus how many people simply never return.

I also wonder if the 9 of 10 metric reflects East Siders adopting the diet for its fad value. I can see that; what I vehemently disagree with is serving the au jus based on "only" 1 of 10 being poisoned.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Mtndog Collaborator
Mtndog
Posted

That is just bizarre- they are going to have a SERIOUS problem if someone is allergic (anaphylactic shock allergic) to gluten!

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
Posted

Au Jus is gluten free it is simply the juices from the meat cooked down a bit. HOWEVER if it is prepared in a pan that isn't safe it is not gluten free. I wouldn't have touched it either

homemaker Enthusiast
homemaker
Posted

Yeah I can relate...I had a waiter say to me, don't worry there is only a little wheat in that entree...that little bit shouldn't bother you...

Grrrrr....they don't get it....

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. trents
      - trents replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ainsleydale1700! First, it is very unlikely, given your genetic results, that you have celiac disease. But it is not a slam dunk. Second, there are some other reasons besides having celiac disease that your blood antibody testing was positive. There are some diseases, some medications and even (for some people...
    2. ainsleydale1700
      - ainsleydale1700 replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      Thank you, that is helpful!
    3. Scott Adams
      - Scott Adams replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      HLA testing can definitely be confusing. Classic celiac disease risk is most strongly associated with having the full HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 heterodimer, which requires specific DQA1 and DQB1 genes working together. Your report shows you are negative for the common DQ2 and DQ8 combinations, but positive for DQB102, which is one component of the DQ2 pair. On its...
    4. Aretaeus Cappadocia
      - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to Thoughtidjoin's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      4

      Dried Chickpeas

      I agree with your post and have had similar experiences. I'm commenting to add the suggestion of also using nutritional yeast as a supplement. It's a rich source of B vitamins and other nutrients, and some brands are further supplemented with additional B12. I sprinkle a modest amount in a variety of savory recipes.
    5. ainsleydale1700
      - ainsleydale1700 posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      Hi, could someone help me understand the result of my gene test? DQ2 (DQA1 0501/0505,DQB1 02XX): Negative DQ8 (DQA1 03XX,DQB1 0302): Negative The patient is positive for DQB1*02, one half of the DQ2 heterodimer. The doctor said I don't have Celiac genes. I asked him to clarify about my positive DQB1*02, and he said it's a gene unrelated...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,434
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    LexiBusch
    Newest Member
    LexiBusch
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ainsleydale1700! First, it is very unlikely, given your genetic results, that you have celiac disease. But it is not a slam dunk. Second, there are some other reasons besides having celiac disease that your blood antibody testing was positive. There are some diseases, some medications and even (for some people) some foods (dairy, the protein "casein") that can cause elevated celiac blood antibody test scores. Usually, the other causes don't produce marginally high test scores and not super high ones. Having said that, by far, the most common reason for elevated tTG-IGA celiac antibody test scores (this is the most common test ordered by doctors when checking for celiac disease) is celiac disease itself. Please post back and list all celiac blood antibody tests that were done with their scores and with their reference ranges. Without the reference ranges for negative vs. positive we can't tell much because they vary from lab to lab. Third, and this is an terrible bum steer by your doc, for the biopsy results to be valid, you need to have been eating generous amounts of gluten up to the day of the procedure for several weeks.  Having said all that, it sounds most likely that you have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) as opposed to celiac disease. The two share many common symptoms but NCGS is not autoimmune in nature and doesn't damage the lining of the small bowel. What symptoms do you have? Do you have any blood work that is out of norm like iron deficiency that would suggest celiac disease?
    • ainsleydale1700
      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      By ainsleydale1700 · Posted

      Thank you, that is helpful! 
    • Scott Adams
      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      By Scott Adams · Posted

      HLA testing can definitely be confusing. Classic celiac disease risk is most strongly associated with having the full HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 heterodimer, which requires specific DQA1 and DQB1 genes working together. Your report shows you are negative for the common DQ2 and DQ8 combinations, but positive for DQB102, which is one component of the DQ2 pair. On its own, DQB102 does not usually form the full DQ2 molecule most strongly linked to celiac disease, which is likely why your doctor said you do not carry the typical “celiac genes.” However, genetics are only part of the picture. A negative gene test makes celiac disease much less likely, but not absolutely impossible in rare cases. More importantly, both antibody testing and biopsy are only reliable when someone is actively eating gluten; being gluten-free for four years before testing can cause both bloodwork and intestinal biopsy to appear falsely negative. Given your positive antibodies and ongoing symptoms, it may be reasonable to seek clarification from a gastroenterologist experienced in celiac disease about whether proper gluten exposure was done before testing and whether additional evaluation is needed.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      Dried Chickpeas

      By Aretaeus Cappadocia · Posted

      I agree with your post and have had similar experiences. I'm commenting to add the suggestion of also using nutritional yeast as a supplement. It's a rich source of B vitamins and other nutrients, and some brands are further supplemented with additional B12. I sprinkle a modest amount in a variety of savory recipes.
    • ainsleydale1700
      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

      By ainsleydale1700 · Posted

      Hi, could someone help me understand the result of my gene test? DQ2 (DQA1 0501/0505,DQB1 02XX): Negative DQ8 (DQA1 03XX,DQB1 0302): Negative The patient is positive for DQB1*02, one half of the DQ2 heterodimer.  The doctor said I don't have Celiac genes.  I asked him to clarify about my positive DQB1*02, and he said it's a gene unrelated to Celiac.  I have all the symptoms and my bloodwork is positive for antibodies, despite being on a gluten-free diet for the past 4 years.  He also did a biopsy but told me to continue a gluten-free diet and not eat gluten before the biopsy.  Based on the gene test and biopsy (which came back negative) he ruled out Celiac, leaving me very confused.    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.