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Thanks For The "duh" Moment


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I wasn't thinking... that's what. Of course you're all right. I was such a dolt to think that picking croutons off my salad was okay. I really was thinking that if I'm not having symptoms, I'm okay.

DUH... that's why I come here. For the good advice I always get.

Thanks for the wake-up call!!


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Well whats done is done...now you just have to make sure it doesn't happen so you don't do any more damage. Glad we all could help. :D

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Good for you for taking this as a learning experience .. a lot of people would have got deffensive. We really are here to help each other out :D

luvs2eat Collaborator

Viola... have you been peeking into my brain?? Cause I totally got defensive!! But lucky for ME... I thought it through and realized that I'm not always as smart as I like to think I am... and it turned into a valuable learning experience.

Thanks for the support!

debbiewil Rookie

I read one study where they found MEASURABLE reactions to glutens in celiacs (ie. increased antibodies, etc.) with .1g of gluten. A slice of bread has about 4.8 grams of gluten, which means it's got 48 times the amount of gluten necessary to cause a celiac to have a measurable reaction. And with the size of the average crouton, one probably has at least 4 or 5 times the amount of gluten to cause a reaction. So even a few of those crumbs..... well, you get the picture.

Also, this is a good visual for people who try to tell you "Oh, a little won't hurt." Cut a piece of bread up into 48 pieces, and show them just how small an amount can cause a reaction.

Debbie

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Viola... have you been peeking into my brain?? Cause I totally got defensive!! But lucky for ME... I thought it through and realized that I'm not always as smart as I like to think I am... and it turned into a valuable learning experience.

Thanks for the support!

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Really glad you didn't get bent out of shape by the remarks. My own experience prompted my strong response. I live In PA and a few years back we had the nuclear accident at Three Mile Island. People actually went out there and stood around - just looking - not giving any thought to what radioactivity could be in the air they were breathing. They couldn't see it - so for all practical purposes it wasn't there. The gluten thing is a lot like that. Some people get very sick when exposed to even a small amount. Others do not, I personally can tolerate a small account - could eat a couple of cookies or a piece of pie without having any symptoms. But there is the unseen activity at the cell level that is doing the damage all the same. I am gluten free now. It is too soon to tell if "better late than never" holds true in this case.

Guest Viola

Debbie, what a wonderful visual! And that would be for the average Celiac. A real sensitive one would react at less than that. Our big problems are very often caused by what we can't see. Such as a spice that has had starch added as a filler, and you certainly can't see the starch on Dry roasted peanuts, but it wil cause big damage. :(


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And I forgot my own favorite analogy... I might as well have said... "I can take off the big pieces of rat poison and blow any dust off."

Would I really eat that salad then??

debbiewil Rookie

Yes, it's all the small "hidden' gluten that I hate. I have no problem whatsoever staying away from bread, pasta, cookies, etc. But it's when you order the salad with grilled chicken breast, and make sure no croutons, you check or go without salad dressing, clean grill, etc. etc. then have a reaction anyway, because they used a commercial frozen chicken breast that has wheat actually in the chicken. Arggh!

And it's not just gluten. A co-worker who is allergic to tree nuts wanted a piece of cheesecake. I sat there and heard her ask the server about what was in it, telling the server she was allergic to nuts, asking that she check and make sure that there were no nuts on it or that it wasn't flavored with a nut extract, like almond, etc. After being assured several times that there weren't any nuts, she got a piece. One bite, and she said -"It's got nuts!" She ended up spending the afternoon in the hospital - there were almonds in the crust, and all the server could come up with was "you didn't ask about the crust, you asked about the filling and the topping!"

And nut allergies are quite common!

Debbie

Merika Contributor
And I forgot my own favorite analogy... I might as well have said... "I can take off the big pieces of rat poison and blow any dust off."

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LOL! that is funny :P

Merika

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